I agree. Until they've been using boats for a long time, (I also think that most boats should be fairly small for now; it takes years to construct large ships IRL) the land-based tribes should not be building submarines.
Well we already have, like 4 tribes have built subs. I get where you're coming from... but I will still use submarine. Based on my submarines are like mech assumption... Also humans aren't a particularly naval species. I will still use aircraft carriers and submarines.
That would be a bad idea if Felipedutra and Torahvision agree with me. If we get a majority, the submaries would be rejected, and continuing to use them could see you removed as Rep.
Well we already have, like 4 tribes have built subs. I get where you're coming from... but I will still use submarine. Based on my submarines are like mech assumption... Also humans aren't a particularly naval species. I will still use aircraft carriers and submarines.
That would be a bad idea if Felipedutra and Torahvision agree with me. If we get a majority, the submaries would be rejected, and continuing to use them could see you removed as Rep.
It makes no sense to not use, submarines. I think I deserve an exception for subs. Also what happens if we draw? it will be 2v2. In that case it would become a vote, again. Atleast in a limited quantity like 4, and not the 12 I have right now. It makes sense since subs are like disabled underwater mechs.
Well we already have, like 4 tribes have built subs. I get where you're coming from... but I will still use submarine. Based on my submarines are like mech assumption... Also humans aren't a particularly naval species. I will still use aircraft carriers and submarines.
That would be a bad idea if Felipedutra and Torahvision agree with me. If we get a majority, the submaries would be rejected, and continuing to use them could see you removed as Rep.
O, I have a great way to spin this, if those 2 agree with you. I am allowed to keep 4 submarines (plus ill build 1 as a command sub) and the other 8 get exchanged for an aircraft carrier, and maybe also 2 light cruisers. (But ill be fine with just an aircraft carrier) If you think that's OP the crocs are nearly finished with 2 aircraft carriers in 4 days.
I don't how else to say this, so I'll say it this way: NO ONE BESIDES THE CROCS SHOULD HAVE SUBMARINES.
If you can squeeze one of the other non-aquatic tribes who hate swimming into a metal swimming machine, good for you. The Crocs like swimming, so they would actually enjoy using swimming machines. Almost every other tribe (Beavers are the one exception) cannot swim, especially the Lions. I'm fine with boats (although the Bear vessels are oversized), but no tribe besides the Crocs would have the nerve to use submarines.
Thank you.
Bears are not oversized, they are realistic, they have realistic measurements for realistic ships. Also the gorillas are used to being locked up in mechs, so submarines are like an underwater home to them, also although gorillas cant swim, most other monkeys can, and many do enjoy swimming*
Given that naval technology was only recently discovered by the Bears and almost everyone else, a 700 foot ship is oversized. Did ancient man build the Titanic on their first sailing journey?
Also, Gorilla mechs are open on the top. Watch the show or look up the LEGO set.
That would be a bad idea if Felipedutra and Torahvision agree with me. If we get a majority, the submaries would be rejected, and continuing to use them could see you removed as Rep.
It makes no sense to not use, submarines. I think I deserve an exception for subs. Also what happens if we draw? it will be 2v2. In that case it would become a vote, again. Atleast in a limited quantity like 4, and not the 12 I have right now. It makes sense since subs are like disabled underwater mechs.
Yes it does. The Gorillas already have a lot of exclusive technology like the death gun, Gorilla mechs, and the landcruiser. Crocodiles can have submarines.
No they are not. Submarines are swimming tubes, not disabled robots.
I agree. Until they've been using boats for a long time, (I also think that most boats should be fairly small for now; it takes years to construct large ships IRL) the land-based tribes should not be building submarines.
Well we already have, like 4 tribes have built subs. I get where you're coming from... but I will still use submarine. Based on my submarines are like mech assumption... Also humans aren't a particularly naval species. I will still use aircraft carriers and submarines.
OOC: Japanese snow monkeys like to swim, that's almost like a short gorilla... so yeah...
OOC: I don't care. Find evidence in the show or other canon material that Gorillas can swim. Snow monkeys are not gorillas.
I don't how else to say this, so I'll say it this way: NO ONE BESIDES THE CROCS SHOULD HAVE SUBMARINES.
If you can squeeze one of the other non-aquatic tribes who hate swimming into a metal swimming machine, good for you. The Crocs like swimming, so they would actually enjoy using swimming machines. Almost every other tribe (Beavers are the one exception) cannot swim, especially the Lions. I'm fine with boats (although the Bear vessels are oversized), but no tribe besides the Crocs would have the nerve to use submarines.
Thank you.
Except crocodiles wouldn't actually need submarines in the first place, because of the fact that they can swim. And it would actually make more sense for the other tribes to have submarines, because of the fact that they can't swim, and therefore would need to be inside a safe and secure vehicle while under water.
I don't how else to say this, so I'll say it this way: NO ONE BESIDES THE CROCS SHOULD HAVE SUBMARINES.
If you can squeeze one of the other non-aquatic tribes who hate swimming into a metal swimming machine, good for you. The Crocs like swimming, so they would actually enjoy using swimming machines. Almost every other tribe (Beavers are the one exception) cannot swim, especially the Lions. I'm fine with boats (although the Bear vessels are oversized), but no tribe besides the Crocs would have the nerve to use submarines.
Thank you.
Bears are not oversized, they are realistic, they have realistic measurements for realistic ships. Also the gorillas are used to being locked up in mechs, so submarines are like an underwater home to them, also although gorillas cant swim, most other monkeys can, and many do enjoy swimming*
Yeah, plus, it would make a lot of sense for the Lions to have submarines, due to the fact that they can't swim.
Well we already have, like 4 tribes have built subs. I get where you're coming from... but I will still use submarine. Based on my submarines are like mech assumption... Also humans aren't a particularly naval species. I will still use aircraft carriers and submarines.
That would be a bad idea if Felipedutra and Torahvision agree with me. If we get a majority, the submaries would be rejected, and continuing to use them could see you removed as Rep.
But the crocodiles don't need submarines. They could just have large battalions swimming underwater. If anyone should have submarines, it should be the lions, because they can't swim.
Bears are not oversized, they are realistic, they have realistic measurements for realistic ships. Also the gorillas are used to being locked up in mechs, so submarines are like an underwater home to them, also although gorillas cant swim, most other monkeys can, and many do enjoy swimming*
Given that naval technology was only recently discovered by the Bears and almost everyone else, a 700 foot ship is oversized. Did ancient man build the Titanic on their first sailing journey?
Also, Gorilla mechs are open on the top. Watch the show or look up the LEGO set.
*Its not oversizd, massive ships were built during the times of ancient greeks, and you're not part of the FAC, and that post said FAC only*
I don't how else to say this, so I'll say it this way: NO ONE BESIDES THE CROCS SHOULD HAVE SUBMARINES.
If you can squeeze one of the other non-aquatic tribes who hate swimming into a metal swimming machine, good for you. The Crocs like swimming, so they would actually enjoy using swimming machines. Almost every other tribe (Beavers are the one exception) cannot swim, especially the Lions. I'm fine with boats (although the Bear vessels are oversized), but no tribe besides the Crocs would have the nerve to use submarines.
Thank you.
Except crocodiles wouldn't actually need submarines in the first place, because of the fact that they can swim. And it would actually make more sense for the other tribes to have submarines, because of the fact that they can't swim, and therefore would need to be inside a safe and secure vehicle while under water.
Without submarines they don't have enough underwater firepower to sink anything. A battalion of Croc Marines doesn't carry torpedo launchers.
That would be a bad idea if Felipedutra and Torahvision agree with me. If we get a majority, the submaries would be rejected, and continuing to use them could see you removed as Rep.
But the crocodiles don't need submarines. They could just have large battalions swimming underwater. If anyone should have submarines, it should be the lions, because they can't swim.
The Lions don't know how to swim and hate water. They would not set foot in the ocean to begin with.
Except crocodiles wouldn't actually need submarines in the first place, because of the fact that they can swim. And it would actually make more sense for the other tribes to have submarines, because of the fact that they can't swim, and therefore would need to be inside a safe and secure vehicle while under water.
Without submarines they don't have enough underwater firepower to sink anything. A battalion of Croc Marines doesn't carry torpedo launchers.
I kinda get your point and I would vote on 2 conditions: 1) I am allowed to have 4 regular submarines, and 1 command sub 2) the rest will be turned into something else 3) This is only for like 6 months until the other tribes, *discover* submarines 4) I wont build the Bismarck so people could the bears could *discover* how to build it.
OK, so I've reached a decision. The Crocs can have any naval boat they come up with and realistically build, maintenance, and operate as long as it's run through the FAC. I think allied Tribes that are not with the Crocs would need to collaborate with each other in order to produce a substantial naval force. But, I feel the Gorillas, Wolves, Eagles, and Bears could come up with a small naval force on their own. It is against Lion instincts to submerge themselves in a pressurized container. Each of the listed tribes could have about 4 subs by themselves. These are my opinions. What do you guys think?