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Post by ladymargaret on Apr 6, 2023 13:41:31 GMT
please do the voting
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Post by The J on Apr 7, 2023 18:39:30 GMT
Okay. TheFirstDecade Shamrock TheCookingMysteryRider Should Owls and Frigatebirds be canonized? I guess there wouldn't need to be much of an explanation for their existence in the RP universe, beyond them being native to far-out islands with chi springs (which are already a thing). Frigatebirds especially make sense, as it stands to reason that there'd be at least one species of sea birds on this planet. I would say we shouldn't have too many fanon species in (what was originally supposed to be) the more canon RP, but then I think of the White Lions, Gryphons, Rays, Sharks, Arctic Foxes, Dragons...so, yeah. Frigatebirds have my vote. A protagonist sea tribe being introduced at the same time as the antagonistic ones makes sense, like the fire and ice tribes having been in the same "wave". Owls, on the other hand, I'm more iffy on, since they make a bit less sense (you're calling them hole owls, so I'm guessing you mean burrowing owls, who reside in large open regions like deserts rather than on islands), and since there's already a pre-existing Owl Tribe (and a very similar breed of owls, at that) in the Fanon RP. In fact, I think you could pretty seamlessly transfer your owl characters and lore over to that RP. We really need more people there anyway. yes,sorry literal translation and stuf.but the idea of the burrowing owls was an avian tribe that can take their share on the underground and align with tigers, it will be a more balanced fight if there are good inland tribes on forneus too, that is why I maybe will make a second burrowing owls kingdom if the specie comes through.the forneus avians are designed to make the colony getting much might more logic, the frigatebirds can fly the whole way between the continents, maybe in special planes, and the holeowls can have a tunnelnetwerk under forneus, like tenebrae’s ones.and wouldn’t it be cool to have planes coming out of the ground on an a,bush Right, that does make sense. The Rays are still the only inhabitants of Forneus, since that's the explanation for their much larger population, but it stands to reason that there would've been land dwelling species on the continent before the aquatic tribes took over.
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Post by TheCookingMysteryRider on Apr 8, 2023 17:34:30 GMT
Okay. TheFirstDecade Shamrock TheCookingMysteryRider Should Owls and Frigatebirds be canonized? I guess there wouldn't need to be much of an explanation for their existence in the RP universe, beyond them being native to far-out islands with chi springs (which are already a thing). Frigatebirds especially make sense, as it stands to reason that there'd be at least one species of sea birds on this planet. I would say we shouldn't have too many fanon species in (what was originally supposed to be) the more canon RP, but then I think of the White Lions, Gryphons, Rays, Sharks, Arctic Foxes, Dragons...so, yeah. Frigatebirds have my vote. A protagonist sea tribe being introduced at the same time as the antagonistic ones makes sense, like the fire and ice tribes having been in the same "wave". Owls, on the other hand, I'm more iffy on, since they make a bit less sense (you're calling them hole owls, so I'm guessing you mean burrowing owls, who reside in large open regions like deserts rather than on islands), and since there's already a pre-existing Owl Tribe (and a very similar breed of owls, at that) in the Fanon RP. In fact, I think you could pretty seamlessly transfer your owl characters and lore over to that RP. We really need more people there anyway. yes,sorry literal translation and stuf.but the idea of the burrowing owls was an avian tribe that can take their share on the underground and align with tigers, it will be a more balanced fight if there are good inland tribes on forneus too, that is why I maybe will make a second burrowing owls kingdom if the specie comes through.the forneus avians are designed to make the colony getting much might more logic, the frigatebirds can fly the whole way between the continents, maybe in special planes, and the holeowls can have a tunnelnetwerk under forneus, like tenebrae’s ones.and wouldn’t it be cool to have planes coming out of the ground on an a,bush The Burrowing Owls allied with the Tunnel Cats is a wonderful addition to the Chima lore since it introduces the idea of entire underground tribes, an underground kingdom, underground societies. To merge it with lore in the best way, perhaps when the Hunters launched the first attack years ago before the Leopards banished them, the Burrowing Owl Elders endured enough violence and escaped to preserve their numbers in the name of pacifism. With news of the second Hunter's arrival, the Burrowing Owls return as a way of atonement, to aid Chima in need to make their past decision right. Or, a small selection of Burrowing Owls return to Chima to investigate whether it was safe to return, learn of the Hunters and agree to help fight them. Perhaps even introduce a plot thread regarding the Burrowing Owls debating on whether to remain pacifist or go to war. To my understanding, Frigatebirds are essentially sea faring avian? If so, the concept is a natural expansion into Chima lore regarding the exploration of the sea. I am alright with both tribes if they do not damage the important threads of the alrighty established lore. However, I do have one question. Would ladymarget be allowed greater expression, rather, a greater degree of control and freedom lore wise concerning the Burrowing Owls if allowed in FanonRP?
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Post by ladymargaret on Apr 9, 2023 15:37:25 GMT
yes,sorry literal translation and stuf.but the idea of the burrowing owls was an avian tribe that can take their share on the underground and align with tigers, it will be a more balanced fight if there are good inland tribes on forneus too, that is why I maybe will make a second burrowing owls kingdom if the specie comes through.the forneus avians are designed to make the colony getting much might more logic, the frigatebirds can fly the whole way between the continents, maybe in special planes, and the holeowls can have a tunnelnetwerk under forneus, like tenebrae’s ones.and wouldn’t it be cool to have planes coming out of the ground on an a,bush The Burrowing Owls allied with the Tunnel Cats is a wonderful addition to the Chima lore since it introduces the idea of entire underground tribes, an underground kingdom, underground societies. To merge it with lore in the best way, perhaps when the Hunters launched the first attack years ago before the Leopards banished them, the Burrowing Owl Elders endured enough violence and escaped to preserve their numbers in the name of pacifism. With news of the second Hunter's arrival, the Burrowing Owls return as a way of atonement, to aid Chima in need to make their past decision right. Or, a small selection of Burrowing Owls return to Chima to investigate whether it was safe to return, learn of the Hunters and agree to help fight them. Perhaps even introduce a plot thread regarding the Burrowing Owls debating on whether to remain pacifist or go to war. To my understanding, Frigatebirds are essentially sea faring avian? If so, the concept is a natural expansion into Chima lore regarding the exploration of the sea. I am alright with both tribes if they do not damage the important threads of the alrighty established lore. However, I do have one question. Would ladymarget be allowed greater expression, rather, a greater degree of control and freedom lore wise concerning the Burrowing Owls if allowed in FanonRP? well, it is an option, I will have to swap to put horion further to present and stretch the frigatebird dynasties to do the icehunters or I can do something with the burrowing owls siding with the AT and just swap frinian and horiontal and make felix felixian.but it isn’t really underground more bat-like. yes the frigatebirds are seafarers, they are in real one of the bird kinds that can fly the farthest well,it is more lore wise freedom, but the canon rp has two other pros:1.it is easier to keep up with what is going on.2.the lore is very good
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Post by ladymargaret on Apr 9, 2023 15:39:09 GMT
yes,sorry literal translation and stuf.but the idea of the burrowing owls was an avian tribe that can take their share on the underground and align with tigers, it will be a more balanced fight if there are good inland tribes on forneus too, that is why I maybe will make a second burrowing owls kingdom if the specie comes through.the forneus avians are designed to make the colony getting much might more logic, the frigatebirds can fly the whole way between the continents, maybe in special planes, and the holeowls can have a tunnelnetwerk under forneus, like tenebrae’s ones.and wouldn’t it be cool to have planes coming out of the ground on an a,bush Right, that does make sense. The Rays are still the only inhabitants of Forneus, since that's the explanation for their much larger population, but it stands to reason that there would've been land dwelling species on the continent before the aquatic tribes took over. do you mean with an extinctions of at least the burrowing owls?
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Post by ladymargaret on Apr 9, 2023 18:53:45 GMT
oh,I forgot to ask:absent mystery rider, what is your vote for the frigatebirds?;if you vote yes I can make a frigatebird king, or you or the J can because it is hard to keep an entire kingdom strong with only a supreme diplomat, one of the two co-generals, that also is head tunnelcat and guard commander, and an admiral newly promoted from commodore with a pirate history.seriously, the whole rp is narrowed, but the colony has had an extra problem with missing king and dynasty.
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Post by The J on Apr 9, 2023 19:12:54 GMT
yes,sorry literal translation and stuf.but the idea of the burrowing owls was an avian tribe that can take their share on the underground and align with tigers, it will be a more balanced fight if there are good inland tribes on forneus too, that is why I maybe will make a second burrowing owls kingdom if the specie comes through.the forneus avians are designed to make the colony getting much might more logic, the frigatebirds can fly the whole way between the continents, maybe in special planes, and the holeowls can have a tunnelnetwerk under forneus, like tenebrae’s ones.and wouldn’t it be cool to have planes coming out of the ground on an a,bush The Burrowing Owls allied with the Tunnel Cats is a wonderful addition to the Chima lore since it introduces the idea of entire underground tribes, an underground kingdom, underground societies. To merge it with lore in the best way, perhaps when the Hunters launched the first attack years ago before the Leopards banished them, the Burrowing Owl Elders endured enough violence and escaped to preserve their numbers in the name of pacifism. With news of the second Hunter's arrival, the Burrowing Owls return as a way of atonement, to aid Chima in need to make their past decision right. Or, a small selection of Burrowing Owls return to Chima to investigate whether it was safe to return, learn of the Hunters and agree to help fight them. Perhaps even introduce a plot thread regarding the Burrowing Owls debating on whether to remain pacifist or go to war. To my understanding, Frigatebirds are essentially sea faring avian? If so, the concept is a natural expansion into Chima lore regarding the exploration of the sea. I am alright with both tribes if they do not damage the important threads of the alrighty established lore. However, I do have one question. Would ladymarget be allowed greater expression, rather, a greater degree of control and freedom lore wise concerning the Burrowing Owls if allowed in FanonRP? The thing is, it seems like the Burrowing Owls are being treated as a western tribe that was fighting the Rays for 800+ years, like the Frigatebirds. Their original biome being the desert or underground of Forneus makes sense, as long as they were driven off by the Rays (since as I said, the Rays being the only inhabitants of that continent is the explanation as to why their population was able to grow so much larger than the average tribe). That is indeed the case; the sky's the limit as to what people can do in the Fanon RP, at least when it comes to introducing tribes. The specific amount of species and tribes that reside on the Fanon RP's planet is intentionally left much more open-ended than on this RP. In fact, scenarios like this are what the Fanon RP was made for in the first place, but it seems like everyone's forgotten that.
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Apr 10, 2023 17:07:19 GMT
Post by TheCookingMysteryRider on Apr 10, 2023 17:07:19 GMT
The Burrowing Owls allied with the Tunnel Cats is a wonderful addition to the Chima lore since it introduces the idea of entire underground tribes, an underground kingdom, underground societies. To merge it with lore in the best way, perhaps when the Hunters launched the first attack years ago before the Leopards banished them, the Burrowing Owl Elders endured enough violence and escaped to preserve their numbers in the name of pacifism. With news of the second Hunter's arrival, the Burrowing Owls return as a way of atonement, to aid Chima in need to make their past decision right. Or, a small selection of Burrowing Owls return to Chima to investigate whether it was safe to return, learn of the Hunters and agree to help fight them. Perhaps even introduce a plot thread regarding the Burrowing Owls debating on whether to remain pacifist or go to war. To my understanding, Frigatebirds are essentially sea faring avian? If so, the concept is a natural expansion into Chima lore regarding the exploration of the sea. I am alright with both tribes if they do not damage the important threads of the alrighty established lore. However, I do have one question. Would ladymarget be allowed greater expression, rather, a greater degree of control and freedom lore wise concerning the Burrowing Owls if allowed in FanonRP? The thing is, it seems like the Burrowing Owls are being treated as a western tribe that was fighting the Rays for 800+ years, like the Frigatebirds. Their original biome being the desert or underground of Forneus makes sense, as long as they were driven off by the Rays (since as I said, the Rays being the only inhabitants of that continent is the explanation as to why their population was able to grow so much larger than the average tribe). That is indeed the case; the sky's the limit as to what people can do in the Fanon RP, at least when it comes to introducing tribes. The specific amount of species and tribes that reside on the Fanon RP's planet is intentionally left much more open-ended than on this RP. In fact, scenarios like this are what the Fanon RP was made for in the first place, but it seems like everyone's forgotten that. It appears LadyMargret likes this RP better due to it having more of a focus, and is willing to switch around things concerning the Burrowing Owls. For sure, I vote yes to Frigate Birds.
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Apr 10, 2023 18:19:43 GMT
Post by ladymargaret on Apr 10, 2023 18:19:43 GMT
The Burrowing Owls allied with the Tunnel Cats is a wonderful addition to the Chima lore since it introduces the idea of entire underground tribes, an underground kingdom, underground societies. To merge it with lore in the best way, perhaps when the Hunters launched the first attack years ago before the Leopards banished them, the Burrowing Owl Elders endured enough violence and escaped to preserve their numbers in the name of pacifism. With news of the second Hunter's arrival, the Burrowing Owls return as a way of atonement, to aid Chima in need to make their past decision right. Or, a small selection of Burrowing Owls return to Chima to investigate whether it was safe to return, learn of the Hunters and agree to help fight them. Perhaps even introduce a plot thread regarding the Burrowing Owls debating on whether to remain pacifist or go to war. To my understanding, Frigatebirds are essentially sea faring avian? If so, the concept is a natural expansion into Chima lore regarding the exploration of the sea. I am alright with both tribes if they do not damage the important threads of the alrighty established lore. However, I do have one question. Would ladymarget be allowed greater expression, rather, a greater degree of control and freedom lore wise concerning the Burrowing Owls if allowed in FanonRP? The thing is, it seems like the Burrowing Owls are being treated as a western tribe that was fighting the Rays for 800+ years, like the Frigatebirds. Their original biome being the desert or underground of Forneus makes sense, as long as they were driven off by the Rays (since as I said, the Rays being the only inhabitants of that continent is the explanation as to why their population was able to grow so much larger than the average tribe). That is indeed the case; the sky's the limit as to what people can do in the Fanon RP, at least when it comes to introducing tribes. The specific amount of species and tribes that reside on the Fanon RP's planet is intentionally left much more open-ended than on this RP. In fact, scenarios like this are what the Fanon RP was made for in the first place, but it seems like everyone's forgotten that. what can work to still hold the amount of rays crazy high is this:the burrowing owls adn frigatebirds are smaller because most of their populations is slaughtered in early wars and they are threatened by sicks,in fact in the redo of the background of the tribe at page 6 of the hollow mountains I already said the burrowing owls only had a small part of the population left after the burrowing owls-MRE war and the colony had a very suïcidical way of war in the frinian time.also what could work is saying the MRE had the better generals after holos city(in the post directly after the biggest background part)and conquered a vast area which allowed them to grow to an immense population while the colony and burrowing owl-frigatebird kingdom were stuck to the area from the cliffs to the great crater, around normal measure.as last option to work this out(all can be combined)is saying forneus isn’t barren but vertile instead and so the mantas could still have an enormous population, in one of my other posts I explained the colony and especially the ET are more of a demographic strong power
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Apr 10, 2023 19:29:13 GMT
Post by The J on Apr 10, 2023 19:29:13 GMT
Right, that does make sense. The Rays are still the only inhabitants of Forneus, since that's the explanation for their much larger population, but it stands to reason that there would've been land dwelling species on the continent before the aquatic tribes took over. do you mean with an extinctions of at least the burrowing owls? No, I mean they would just need to have left Forneus. They could've also left of their own will, rather than being forced off the continent.
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Post by TheCookingMysteryRider on Apr 11, 2023 3:47:38 GMT
I have a small idea that might help the situation. What if small portions of these tribes, perhaps one or two representatives, appear within the Roleplay, but their history is revealed little by little throughout the story, that way ladymarget can jump in the roleplay, but in the background over here you both can work on inserting the lore in the best way possible. Each new agreement is then revealed in the Roleplay, adding intrigue to the story as well.
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Apr 11, 2023 13:57:42 GMT
Post by ladymargaret on Apr 11, 2023 13:57:42 GMT
I have a small idea that might help the situation. What if small portions of these tribes, perhaps one or two representatives, appear within the Roleplay, but their history is revealed little by little throughout the story, that way ladymarget can jump in the roleplay, but in the background over here you both can work on inserting the lore in the best way possible. Each new agreement is then revealed in the Roleplay, adding intrigue to the story as well. well we already did that with the colony chimean tribes we can do that with burrowi owls too
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Apr 12, 2023 23:22:54 GMT
Post by The J on Apr 12, 2023 23:22:54 GMT
The thing is, it seems like the Burrowing Owls are being treated as a western tribe that was fighting the Rays for 800+ years, like the Frigatebirds. Their original biome being the desert or underground of Forneus makes sense, as long as they were driven off by the Rays (since as I said, the Rays being the only inhabitants of that continent is the explanation as to why their population was able to grow so much larger than the average tribe). That is indeed the case; the sky's the limit as to what people can do in the Fanon RP, at least when it comes to introducing tribes. The specific amount of species and tribes that reside on the Fanon RP's planet is intentionally left much more open-ended than on this RP. In fact, scenarios like this are what the Fanon RP was made for in the first place, but it seems like everyone's forgotten that. what can work to still hold the amount of rays crazy high is this:the burrowing owls adn frigatebirds are smaller because most of their populations is slaughtered in early wars and they are threatened by sicks,in fact in the redo of the background of the tribe at page 6 of the hollow mountains I already said the burrowing owls only had a small part of the population left after the burrowing owls-MRE war and the colony had a very suïcidical way of war in the frinian time.also what could work is saying the MRE had the better generals after holos city(in the post directly after the biggest background part)and conquered a vast area which allowed them to grow to an immense population while the colony and burrowing owl-frigatebird kingdom were stuck to the area from the cliffs to the great crater, around normal measure.as last option to work this out(all can be combined)is saying forneus isn’t barren but vertile instead and so the mantas could still have an enormous population, in one of my other posts I explained the colony and especially the ET are more of a demographic strong power Makes sense.
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Apr 12, 2023 23:27:35 GMT
Post by The J on Apr 12, 2023 23:27:35 GMT
I have a small idea that might help the situation. What if small portions of these tribes, perhaps one or two representatives, appear within the Roleplay, but their history is revealed little by little throughout the story, that way ladymarget can jump in the roleplay, but in the background over here you both can work on inserting the lore in the best way possible. Each new agreement is then revealed in the Roleplay, adding intrigue to the story as well. well we already did that with the colony chimean tribes we can do that with burrowi owls too Yeah. With all of this in mind, I'll vote yes for the Burrowing Owls. This RP was always going to need fanon tribes introduced post-Illumination anyway, since that's as far as the TV show had gone, and it's only logical that there'd be two new protagonist tribes (Owls, Frigatebirds) as part of the "wave" along with the two new antagonist tribes (Rays, Sharks).
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