Afraid you can't, we're trying to come up with a compromise, because of mis-communication, and even if their wasn't the compromise, I have troops that would intercept you first.
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I've been keeping up with this topic and I see NO way you could have intercepted me. Your troops are either boxed in Minas Morgul or coming down from Gorgoroth. I'm coming from the opposite direction, and EE's troops should be in the way.
Actually, I have a cavalry Army which I was using to flank EE and take cheap shots at him.
Tul Generas of the Orcs, Darthraxx of the dragon Knights. I RP, and have lots of fun.
Another question, what sort of losses have been taken here? Or have you gone back to near the start?
Nothing has really been done. Here are my forces:
Army 2: 100 HArmored Trolls (2,000 total worth) 250 Sod Boxers (500 worth) 100 Ninjas of Udun (500 worth)
Army 2 is almost in Gorgoroth, Defending the Pass.
Army 3: 50 Tower Guard (250 total) 250 Cross-Archers (250 worth) 250 Clan Leaders (500 worth)(large shields various other weapons)
Army 3 is Defending the Wall I made.
Army 4: 100 Heavy Chariots 100 Goblin Chariots 500 Elite Warg Skirmishers (1K MWE) 200 Black Wargs (1K total)
Army 4 is in between EE and the Dwarves, and was originally used for flanking.
Army 5: 50 Hedgehogs 300 Goblin Snipers 1,250 Goblin Mercenaries (.4 worth, different than Third Age)
Army 5, due to the Time they arrived, would actually be with Army 2, not 3, because EE would have already been blocking them off, meaning they are with Army 2. 17 DGHB accompanied Army 3, and their is a list of Khandish seige somewhere as well. Let's see If I can go find it. . . Here it is: 4 Trebuchet (120 worth) 28 Onagers (280) 7 Siege Ballistae (86) 2 Ballistae (14)
This is with Armies 2 and 5 at the fully functional wall. *Armies 2 and 5 begin making taller platforms for the Seige Weaponry, giving them an even higher place.*
Tul Generas of the Orcs, Darthraxx of the dragon Knights. I RP, and have lots of fun.
I've been keeping up with this topic and I see NO way you could have intercepted me. Your troops are either boxed in Minas Morgul or coming down from Gorgoroth. I'm coming from the opposite direction, and EE's troops should be in the way.
Actually, I have a cavalry Army which I was using to flank EE and take cheap shots at him.
Isn't said army part of the group boxed in Minas Morgul? I'm guarding the whole pass, so you really couldn't flank my very well, since you can't go around me.
Anywho, my apologies for not responding here, been busy with traveling and the 3rd Age RP. I'll try to make a response to your attack post(s) later today or tomorrow sometime.
The day of prosperity makes one forget adversity; The day of adversity makes one forget prosperity.
Actually, I have a cavalry Army which I was using to flank EE and take cheap shots at him.
Isn't said army part of the group boxed in Minas Morgul? I'm guarding the whole pass, so you really couldn't flank my very well, since you can't go around me.
Anywho, my apologies for not responding here, been busy with traveling and the 3rd Age RP. I'll try to make a response to your attack post(s) later today or tomorrow sometime.
Said army entered with the group boxed in at Minas Morgul. After you entered, I sent them out to the strectches of the region, and I then flanked you with them. You let them pass then, so I'm saying that they are still here.
Sure, I'll be patient. You probably need a lot of time to figure out how to pass an avalanche.
Tul Generas of the Orcs, Darthraxx of the dragon Knights. I RP, and have lots of fun.
Isn't said army part of the group boxed in Minas Morgul? I'm guarding the whole pass, so you really couldn't flank my very well, since you can't go around me.
Anywho, my apologies for not responding here, been busy with traveling and the 3rd Age RP. I'll try to make a response to your attack post(s) later today or tomorrow sometime.
Said army entered with the group boxed in at Minas Morgul. After you entered, I sent them out to the strectches of the region, and I then flanked you with them. You let them pass then, so I'm saying that they are still here.
Sure, I'll be patient. You probably need a lot of time to figure out how to pass an avalanche.
I let Army 2 pass, because they actually moved before you were boxed in. I don't recall there being any cavalry that were with them. Can you find and quote the relevant post(s) for that?
Ever the self-assured one, eh? But seriously, playing several hours of baseball in 80+ degree weather tends to drain one, both physically and mentally. So I haven't really been up for making the long, thought-out battle responses needed here. But I'll do that now.
The day of prosperity makes one forget adversity; The day of adversity makes one forget prosperity.
Well, since you seem confident in your victory, I might as well take advantage of your mistakes. We'll say you built said wall at the entrance to Minas Morgul, or somewhere near the ruins to the city. Sound fair?
If so, I believe it's your move, to redo the part I nulled.
Not confident in victory per se, just confident that you will eventually have to storm the wall. as for my new move. . .
*Sod Boxers and Ninja of Udun from Army 2 begin preparing for an ambush* *The Siege Weapons send out anti-Infantry shots at the troops nearest the Mountains.* *The Goblin Mercs and other troops create the following formation.*
*Army 3 launches an attack from the other direction as Armies 2 and 5 make their breakthrough.*
Assuming that Army 2 gets to the Pass (which is likely, although Army 5 will be torn in shreds) then the following move applies. *Army 2 Retreats down the Pass to the Wall.*
OOC: OK, IK that I promised a response move, but I just cannot make heads or tails of this post. The first two moves are fine, but I can't make much of a response, due to their nature. But after that...I'm at a loss.
- On your map, "G" is clearly Goblin mercs. But what are Os and Hs? - Army 3 (and 4, or so I thought, see previous post) is blocked in Minas Morgul; Armies 2 and 5 are at Cirith Ungol, at the other end of the vale. My troops are within a mile of Armies 3 and 4, but are about 50 miles from armies 2 and 5. You really couldn't attack with them at the same time, since armies 2 and 5 can't attack (or even communicate) until they get closer. - Armies 3 (and 4?) are the ones being blockaded, yet you make it sound like the other armies are the trapped ones. AFAIK, they aren't being blocked from going anywhere, except possibly west. Which pass are you referring to? The one that my troops are on? As stated earlier, those are about 50 miles off ATM.
My apologies if I'm being thick-headed. It's late, and I'm tired, so I probably just need it all explained better.
The day of prosperity makes one forget adversity; The day of adversity makes one forget prosperity.
Just so you know, my army: Army 2: (3,000 worth) 100 HArmored Trolls (2,000 total worth) 250 Sod Boxers (500 worth) 100 Ninjas of Udun (500 worth)
Army 3: (1,000 Worth) 50 Tower Guard (250 total) 250 Cross-Archers (250 worth) 250 Clan Leaders (500 worth)(large shields various other weapons)
Army 4:(3,000 Worth) 100 Heavy Chariots 100 Goblin Chariots 500 Elite Warg Skirmishers (1K MWE) 200 Black Wargs (1K total)
Tul Generas Iet's units: (1,000 Worth) (That is Tul Generas of the seven, roughly, in Orcish. The 's is because I am still speaking in English, mostly.) 8 Uruk Armorers (40) 6 Clan Leaders (12) 10 normal orcs with swords (8) 4 Uruk Marines (40) 4 Spreaders (200) (If not approved then 10 Harmored Trolls instead) 40 Ninjas of Udun (200) 10 HArmored Trolls (200) 40 Black Wargs (200) 20 Tower Guard (100)
Seige Worth: 17 Dol Guldur Heavy Ballistae.
*Several Snaga approach your army, looking for a less messy way of doing things. they state that Tul Generas wishes to duel the leader of the Gondorians, one-on-one, at Midnight. Any number of weapons and armor may be brought for the duel, and mounts are allowed as well. Bringing ranged weaponry is discouraged.* *The 4th Army Moves from the work, going elsewhere in the region.* *The second and third armies continue preparations and building for the army.*
This is on the first page. So. . . They aren't in the ruins.
Tul Generas of the Orcs, Darthraxx of the dragon Knights. I RP, and have lots of fun.
Not confident in victory per se, just confident that you will eventually have to storm the wall. as for my new move. . .
*Sod Boxers and Ninja of Udun from Army 2 begin preparing for an ambush* *The Siege Weapons send out anti-Infantry shots at the troops nearest the Mountains.* *The Goblin Mercs and other troops create the following formation.*
*Army 3 launches an attack from the other direction as Armies 2 and 5 make their breakthrough.*
Assuming that Army 2 gets to the Pass (which is likely, although Army 5 will be torn in shreds) then the following move applies. *Army 2 Retreats down the Pass to the Wall.*
OOC: OK, IK that I promised a response move, but I just cannot make heads or tails of this post. The first two moves are fine, but I can't make much of a response, due to their nature. But after that...I'm at a loss.
- On your map, "G" is clearly Goblin mercs. But what are Os and Hs? - Army 3 (and 4, or so I thought, see previous post) is blocked in Minas Morgul; Armies 2 and 5 are at Cirith Ungol, at the other end of the vale. My troops are within a mile of Armies 3 and 4, but are about 50 miles from armies 2 and 5. You really couldn't attack with them at the same time, since armies 2 and 5 can't attack (or even communicate) until they get closer. - Armies 3 (and 4?) are the ones being blockaded, yet you make it sound like the other armies are the trapped ones. AFAIK, they aren't being blocked from going anywhere, except possibly west. Which pass are you referring to? The one that my troops are on? As stated earlier, those are about 50 miles off ATM.
My apologies if I'm being thick-headed. It's late, and I'm tired, so I probably just need it all explained better.
Actually, not only should it be better explained, but it's also not able to be done. The only army is Army 3 at the wall, and this uses stuff from Army 5 in addition to Army 3. So. . . Let's redo the move. *Dol Guldur Ballistae continue Firing at your siege weapon, targeting the Arras-En Menul (I probably dreadfully misspelled that) if in range.* *The other units stay behind the wall.* *Army 4 charges at the Arras-En Menul, firing arrows at their crews.* *Armies 2 and 5 continue to build up the Platforms for height.* *The Sod Boxers and Ninja of Udun begin setting up an ambush.*
these are my new moves, now that we are 100% on the same page, I know where my armies actually are, etc.
Tul Generas of the Orcs, Darthraxx of the dragon Knights. I RP, and have lots of fun.
Just so you know, my army: Army 2: (3,000 worth) 100 HArmored Trolls (2,000 total worth) 250 Sod Boxers (500 worth) 100 Ninjas of Udun (500 worth)
Army 3: (1,000 Worth) 50 Tower Guard (250 total) 250 Cross-Archers (250 worth) 250 Clan Leaders (500 worth)(large shields various other weapons)
Army 4:(3,000 Worth) 100 Heavy Chariots 100 Goblin Chariots 500 Elite Warg Skirmishers (1K MWE) 200 Black Wargs (1K total)
Tul Generas Iet's units: (1,000 Worth) (That is Tul Generas of the seven, roughly, in Orcish. The 's is because I am still speaking in English, mostly.) 8 Uruk Armorers (40) 6 Clan Leaders (12) 10 normal orcs with swords (8) 4 Uruk Marines (40) 4 Spreaders (200) (If not approved then 10 Harmored Trolls instead) 40 Ninjas of Udun (200) 10 HArmored Trolls (200) 40 Black Wargs (200) 20 Tower Guard (100)
Seige Worth: 17 Dol Guldur Heavy Ballistae.
*Several Snaga approach your army, looking for a less messy way of doing things. they state that Tul Generas wishes to duel the leader of the Gondorians, one-on-one, at Midnight. Any number of weapons and armor may be brought for the duel, and mounts are allowed as well. Bringing ranged weaponry is discouraged.* *The 4th Army Moves from the work, going elsewhere in the region.* *The second and third armies continue preparations and building for the army.*
This is on the first page. So. . . They aren't in the ruins.
No offense, but "elsewhere" is a bit vague. They could have gone to the side by Gorgoroth or towards North Ithilien. They still would have been boxed in as the Gondorians troops came up the Vale and they would have been most likely forced towards Gorgoroth.
Regardless, I feel as though this RP is grinding to a halt, and given the discussions in the 4th Age RPDT I don't really feel like spending time arguing here. My time in the MBs is being tightly controlled by my parents right now and I have a ton of really important homework to do. The Third Age RP is taking up most of my time, with modding the next most.
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This is on the first page. So. . . They aren't in the ruins.
No offense, but "elsewhere" is a bit vague. They could have gone to the side by Gorgoroth or towards North Ithilien. They still would have been boxed in as the Gondorians troops came up the Vale and they would have been most likely forced towards Gorgoroth.
Regardless, I feel as though this RP is grinding to a halt, and given the discussions in the 4th Age RPDT I don't really feel like spending time arguing here. My time in the MBs is being tightly controlled by my parents right now and I have a ton of really important homework to do. The Third Age RP is taking up most of my time, with modding the next most.
The Elsewhere was back when I assumed that the Morgul Vale was describing an area cheifly outside the Mountains, and as such they would be in between stuff.
I understand.
Tul Generas of the Orcs, Darthraxx of the dragon Knights. I RP, and have lots of fun.
OOC: OK, IK that I promised a response move, but I just cannot make heads or tails of this post. The first two moves are fine, but I can't make much of a response, due to their nature. But after that...I'm at a loss.
- On your map, "G" is clearly Goblin mercs. But what are Os and Hs? - Army 3 (and 4, or so I thought, see previous post) is blocked in Minas Morgul; Armies 2 and 5 are at Cirith Ungol, at the other end of the vale. My troops are within a mile of Armies 3 and 4, but are about 50 miles from armies 2 and 5. You really couldn't attack with them at the same time, since armies 2 and 5 can't attack (or even communicate) until they get closer. - Armies 3 (and 4?) are the ones being blockaded, yet you make it sound like the other armies are the trapped ones. AFAIK, they aren't being blocked from going anywhere, except possibly west. Which pass are you referring to? The one that my troops are on? As stated earlier, those are about 50 miles off ATM.
My apologies if I'm being thick-headed. It's late, and I'm tired, so I probably just need it all explained better.
Actually, not only should it be better explained, but it's also not able to be done. The only army is Army 3 at the wall, and this uses stuff from Army 5 in addition to Army 3. So. . . Let's redo the move. *Dol Guldur Ballistae continue Firing at your siege weapon, targeting the Arras-En Menul (I probably dreadfully misspelled that) if in range.* *The other units stay behind the wall.* *Army 4 charges at the Arras-En Menul, firing arrows at their crews.* *Armies 2 and 5 continue to build up the Platforms for height.* *The Sod Boxers and Ninja of Udun begin setting up an ambush.*
these are my new moves, now that we are 100% on the same page, I know where my armies actually are, etc.
Ah, excellent, this makes far more sense.
*My siege engines continue to return fire at the DG Ballistae.* *All Gondorian cavalry (currently on the flanks of my army) turn and charge towards Army 4, looking to intercept them before they reach the Dwarvish siege engines. They spread out (as much as they can, at least), so as to give less of a target for arrows.*
And my apologies for the late response. I only have the usual excuses.
The day of prosperity makes one forget adversity; The day of adversity makes one forget prosperity.
Just so you know, my army: Army 2: (3,000 worth) 100 HArmored Trolls (2,000 total worth) 250 Sod Boxers (500 worth) 100 Ninjas of Udun (500 worth)
Army 3: (1,000 Worth) 50 Tower Guard (250 total) 250 Cross-Archers (250 worth) 250 Clan Leaders (500 worth)(large shields various other weapons)
Army 4:(3,000 Worth) 100 Heavy Chariots 100 Goblin Chariots 500 Elite Warg Skirmishers (1K MWE) 200 Black Wargs (1K total)
Tul Generas Iet's units: (1,000 Worth) (That is Tul Generas of the seven, roughly, in Orcish. The 's is because I am still speaking in English, mostly.) 8 Uruk Armorers (40) 6 Clan Leaders (12) 10 normal orcs with swords (8) 4 Uruk Marines (40) 4 Spreaders (200) (If not approved then 10 Harmored Trolls instead) 40 Ninjas of Udun (200) 10 HArmored Trolls (200) 40 Black Wargs (200) 20 Tower Guard (100)
Seige Worth: 17 Dol Guldur Heavy Ballistae.
*Several Snaga approach your army, looking for a less messy way of doing things. they state that Tul Generas wishes to duel the leader of the Gondorians, one-on-one, at Midnight. Any number of weapons and armor may be brought for the duel, and mounts are allowed as well. Bringing ranged weaponry is discouraged.* *The 4th Army Moves from the work, going elsewhere in the region.* *The second and third armies continue preparations and building for the army.*
This is on the first page. So. . . They aren't in the ruins.
As MLB noted, "elsewhere" is quite vague, and someplace more definite should be stated, unless there's a good reason not to (e.g. a secret move). But Minas Morgul is only so large, I'm guessing by elsewhere you meant somewhere else in the region, besides Minas Morgul. So we can let that go.
The day of prosperity makes one forget adversity; The day of adversity makes one forget prosperity.
Actually, not only should it be better explained, but it's also not able to be done. The only army is Army 3 at the wall, and this uses stuff from Army 5 in addition to Army 3. So. . . Let's redo the move. *Dol Guldur Ballistae continue Firing at your siege weapon, targeting the Arras-En Menul (I probably dreadfully misspelled that) if in range.* *The other units stay behind the wall.* *Army 4 charges at the Arras-En Menul, firing arrows at their crews.* *Armies 2 and 5 continue to build up the Platforms for height.* *The Sod Boxers and Ninja of Udun begin setting up an ambush.*
these are my new moves, now that we are 100% on the same page, I know where my armies actually are, etc.
Ah, excellent, this makes far more sense.
*My siege engines continue to return fire at the DG Ballistae.* *All Gondorian cavalry (currently on the flanks of my army) turn and charge towards Army 4, looking to intercept them before they reach the Dwarvish siege engines. They spread out (as much as they can, at least), so as to give less of a target for arrows.*
And my apologies for the late response. I only have the usual excuses.
*My Ballistae continue Fire.* *The cavalry swerve quickly towards the left side of the Gondorian cavalry, the Archers behind melee infantry, firing at nearest cavalry.*
Tul Generas of the Orcs, Darthraxx of the dragon Knights. I RP, and have lots of fun.
*My siege engines continue to return fire at the DG Ballistae.* *All Gondorian cavalry (currently on the flanks of my army) turn and charge towards Army 4, looking to intercept them before they reach the Dwarvish siege engines. They spread out (as much as they can, at least), so as to give less of a target for arrows.*
And my apologies for the late response. I only have the usual excuses.
*My Ballistae continue Fire.* *The cavalry swerve quickly towards the left side of the Gondorian cavalry, the Archers behind melee infantry, firing at nearest cavalry.*
OOC: What melee infantry? As far as I can tell, army 4 is entirely cavalry.
The day of prosperity makes one forget adversity; The day of adversity makes one forget prosperity.
*My Ballistae continue Fire.* *The cavalry swerve quickly towards the left side of the Gondorian cavalry, the Archers behind melee infantry, firing at nearest cavalry.*
OOC: What melee infantry? As far as I can tell, army 4 is entirely cavalry.
OOC: oops, typo. meant cavalry.
Tul Generas of the Orcs, Darthraxx of the dragon Knights. I RP, and have lots of fun.