- Eastfold is not marked (between Anorien and Westfold). - Noman-Lands is missing (between N. Ithilien, Dagorlad, and Emyn Muil). - The Rhovanion regions are missing. I believe W. Rhovanion occupied the land between Mirkwood/DG, the Celduin, and Dorwinion (which bordered the Sea of Rhun). S. Rhovanion occupied the lands between W. Rhovanion, the Ered Lithui, Rhun, and Brown Lands/Dagorlad. At least, I think so. May wanna check with KitKat on that.
Again, great job, thanks for doing this!
The day of prosperity makes one forget adversity; The day of adversity makes one forget prosperity.
We should begin to work on a list of regions now. Do you have a list handy, or should I work on one?
Here:
Angmar
Forochel
Grey Mountains
Withered Heath
Iron Hills
Esgaroth
Celduin
Dorwinion
Khand
Western Rhovanion (^)
Southern Rhovanion (^)
The Carrock
Central Mirkwood
High Pass
Gladden Fields
Celebrant
Brown Lands
Dunland
Ettenmoors
Lone Lands (*)
North Downs
Evendim
Shire
Cardolan
Weathertop
Trollshaws
The Wold
Westfold (*)
Eastfold (*)
Adorn
Druwaith Iaur
Gap of Rohan
Emyn Muil
Noman-lands (*)
N. Ithilien
S. Ithilien
Morgul Vale (^)
Lebennin
Lamedon
Minhiriath
Enedwaith
Eregion (Hollin)
Morannon
Osgiliath
Harondor
Anfalas
Andrast
Grey Havens
You'll probably want to make sure this is all of them, but it should be.
@the current discussion on regions:
First off, great job on the map, CC! And also, thanks EE for the above list!
Second, I just cross-references said map and above list. You might notice that most of the regions listed above are crossed out, and that's from my referencing them to CC's map. Each crossed-out region is both on the list (obviously) and the map. There are also a few with asterisks and whatever you call that other little thingy. The asterisks are just name things, while the other marks are for some actual changes/notes on the map.
But anyways, this is the list of regions that were on the map, but not the above list (and most of them I remember being in the old RP).
Forlindon (excluded from the old RP)
Harlindon (excluded from the old RP)
North Ered Luin
South Ered Luin
Old Forest
Forodwaith
Tharbad
Dimrill Dale
Helm's Deep
Dagorlad
Anorien
Henneth Annun
Cair Andros
Emyn Arnen
Cirith Ungol
Crossings of Poros
Pelargir
Tolfalas
(HQs/subs not on list):
Bree
Rivendell
Isengard
Moria
Gundabad
Mirkwood
Dol Guldur
Lothlorien
Fangorn
Edoras
Erebor
Dale
Rhun
Minas Morgul
Minas Tirith
Barad-dur
Harad
Umbar
Dol Amroth
Regions on list but not map:
Adorn
Regions on neither the map nor the list, but have been brought into my mind and I think were in the old RP:
Redhorn Pass
Belfalas
Crossroads
East Bight (?)
Pelennor Fields
Misty Mountains/Goblin-town (sub-HQ)
Name stuffs:
Weather Hills: Although this is on the map, it isn't on EE's list, and I don't recall it being in the old RP. We did, however, have the Lone-lands, which I believe were nearby, and could serve as the same region.
West Emnet/East Emnet: Neither of these regions were in EE's list either. However, EE mention the Westfold/Eastfold, and although these locations are slightly different, they could be interchangeable for our purposes (I don't remember what we did in the old RP). Actually, I think the Eastfold was south of the East Emnet, and west of Anorien (on the map, the part of West Emnet south of Edoras).
Nindalf: Again, not in EE's list, nor was it in the old RP. But as EE mentioned, the map is missing Noman's Land, which is nearby and could cover the same area.
Notes:
West/East/South Rhovanion: On CC's map, West Rhovanion is between Mirkwood and the Anduin, East Rhovanion is directly on the eastern side of Mirkwood, and there's a gap where South Rhovanion should be. In the old RP, West Rhovanion was where East Rhovanion and Dorwinion are on the map (Dorwinion, I think, was just in that little bit below the River Running that says "Sea of Rhun"), South Rhovanion was between West Rhovanion and the northern mountains of Mordor, and I think we had some other region instead of the map's West Rhovanion (it could be the Vales of the Anduin, which is now probably a sub-HQ).
Celduin/Iron Hills: I believe Celduin stretched a bit more northward, separating Erebor and the Iron Hills.
Khand: I think Khand also stretched more northward, connecting to Rhun behind Mordor's opening.
Crossroads/Morgul Vale: Currently it looks like there's an unlabeled region between Osgiliath and Minas Morgul. I think this would be the Crossroads, but Morgul Vale would also be in that general location (and was also in the old RP). The Morgul Vale should be between the Crossroads and Minas Morgul, and (on a related note) should have Cirith Ungol running between it and Mordor, alongside Minas Morgul.
For clarity purposes, CC, I think it would be helpful if you mentioned which locations were HQs and sub-HQs on the map. Here's the lists, at least of what it looks like they'll be.
HQs:
Bree
Mirkwood
Erebor
Dale
Edoras
Minas Tirith
Moria
Dol Guldur
Rhun
Isengard
Mordor
Harad
Sub-HQs:
Rivendell
Lothlorien
Iron Hills
Beornings (location undecided, perhaps Vales of the Anduin, The Carrock, or somewhere else in that vicinity)
Fangorn Forest
Dol Amroth
Goblin-town (just below the High Pass)
Gundabad
Khand
Dunland
Minas Morgul
Umbar
And last, but certainly not least, this is what I think our region list should be, after everything I mentioned above (excluding HQs, organized geographically starting from the Northeast, crossing the Misty Mountains, and then moving past Ithilien covering south of the White Mountains).
North Ered Luin
Grey Havens
South Ered Luin
The Shire
Old Forest
[Bree]
Weathertop
Lone Lands (Weather Hills)
Trollshaws
[Rivendell]
Minhiriath
Cardolan
Hollin (Eregion)
Tharbad
Enedwaith
[Dunland]
Druwaith Iaur
Adorn
[Moria]
Redhorn Pass
[Goblin-town]
High Pass
Evendim
North Downs
Ettenmoors
Angmar
Forochel
Forodwaith
[Gundabad]
Grey Mountains
Withered Heath
The Carrock
Gladden Fields
[Vales of the Anduin]
[Mirkwood]
Central Mirkwood
[Dol Guldur]
East Bight
[Erebor]
[Dale]
Esgaroth
Celduin
[Iron Hills]
West Rhovanion
Dorwinion
[Rhun]
South Rhovanion
Old Brown Lands
Dimrill Dale
[Lothlorien]
Celebrant
[Fangorn Forest]
The Wold
Gap of Rohan
[Isengard]
Helm's Deep
[Edoras]
West Emnet
East Emnet
Eastfold
Emyn Muil
Noman-lands
Dagorlad
Morannon (The Black Gate)
[Barad-Dur]
Anorien
North Ithilien
Cair Andros
Henneth Annun
Crossroads
Morgul Vale
[Minas Morgul]
Cirith Ungol
Osgiliath
Pelennor Fields
[Minas Tirith]
Emyn Arnen
South Ithilien
Crossings of Poros
Harondor
[Harad]
[Khand]
[Umbar]
Pelargir
Lebennin
Belfalas
Tolfalas
[Dol Amroth]
Lamedon
Anfalas
Andrast
So that makes twenty-four HQs/subs, and sixty-seven regions, if I counted correctly
You'll probably want to make sure this is all of them, but it should be.
@the current discussion on regions:
First off, great job on the map, CC! And also, thanks EE for the above list!
Second, I just cross-references said map and above list. You might notice that most of the regions listed above are crossed out, and that's from my referencing them to CC's map. Each crossed-out region is both on the list (obviously) and the map. There are also a few with asterisks and whatever you call that other little thingy. The asterisks are just name things, while the other marks are for some actual changes/notes on the map.
But anyways, this is the list of regions that were on the map, but not the above list (and most of them I remember being in the old RP).
Forlindon (excluded from the old RP)
Harlindon (excluded from the old RP)
North Ered Luin
South Ered Luin
Old Forest
Forodwaith
Tharbad
Dimrill Dale
Helm's Deep
Dagorlad
Anorien
Henneth Annun
Cair Andros
Emyn Arnen
Cirith Ungol
Crossings of Poros
Pelargir
Tolfalas
(HQs/subs not on list):
Bree
Rivendell
Isengard
Moria
Gundabad
Mirkwood
Dol Guldur
Lothlorien
Fangorn
Edoras
Erebor
Dale
Rhun
Minas Morgul
Minas Tirith
Barad-dur
Harad
Umbar
Dol Amroth
Regions on list but not map:
Adorn
Regions on neither the map nor the list, but have been brought into my mind and I think were in the old RP:
Redhorn Pass
Belfalas
Crossroads
East Bight (?)
Pelennor Fields
Misty Mountains/Goblin-town (sub-HQ)
Name stuffs:
Weather Hills: Although this is on the map, it isn't on EE's list, and I don't recall it being in the old RP. We did, however, have the Lone-lands, which I believe were nearby, and could serve as the same region.
West Emnet/East Emnet: Neither of these regions were in EE's list either. However, EE mention the Westfold/Eastfold, and although these locations are slightly different, they could be interchangeable for our purposes (I don't remember what we did in the old RP). Actually, I think the Eastfold was south of the East Emnet, and west of Anorien (on the map, the part of West Emnet south of Edoras).
Nindalf: Again, not in EE's list, nor was it in the old RP. But as EE mentioned, the map is missing Noman's Land, which is nearby and could cover the same area.
Notes:
West/East/South Rhovanion: On CC's map, West Rhovanion is between Mirkwood and the Anduin, East Rhovanion is directly on the eastern side of Mirkwood, and there's a gap where South Rhovanion should be. In the old RP, West Rhovanion was where East Rhovanion and Dorwinion are on the map (Dorwinion, I think, was just in that little bit below the River Running that says "Sea of Rhun"), South Rhovanion was between West Rhovanion and the northern mountains of Mordor, and I think we had some other region instead of the map's West Rhovanion (it could be the Vales of the Anduin, which is now probably a sub-HQ).
Celduin/Iron Hills: I believe Celduin stretched a bit more northward, separating Erebor and the Iron Hills.
Khand: I think Khand also stretched more northward, connecting to Rhun behind Mordor's opening.
Crossroads/Morgul Vale: Currently it looks like there's an unlabeled region between Osgiliath and Minas Morgul. I think this would be the Crossroads, but Morgul Vale would also be in that general location (and was also in the old RP). The Morgul Vale should be between the Crossroads and Minas Morgul, and (on a related note) should have Cirith Ungol running between it and Mordor, alongside Minas Morgul.
For clarity purposes, CC, I think it would be helpful if you mentioned which locations were HQs and sub-HQs on the map. Here's the lists, at least of what it looks like they'll be.
HQs:
Bree
Mirkwood
Erebor
Dale
Edoras
Minas Tirith
Moria
Dol Guldur
Rhun
Isengard
Mordor
Harad
Sub-HQs:
Rivendell
Lothlorien
Iron Hills
Beornings (location undecided, perhaps Vales of the Anduin, The Carrock, or somewhere else in that vicinity)
Fangorn Forest
Dol Amroth
Goblin-town (just below the High Pass)
Gundabad
Khand
Dunland
Minas Morgul
Umbar
And last, but certainly not least, this is what I think our region list should be, after everything I mentioned above (excluding HQs, organized geographically starting from the Northeast, crossing the Misty Mountains, and then moving past Ithilien covering south of the White Mountains).
North Ered Luin
Grey Havens
South Ered Luin
The Shire
Old Forest
[Bree]
Weathertop
Lone Lands (Weather Hills)
Trollshaws
[Rivendell]
Minhiriath
Cardolan
Hollin (Eregion)
Tharbad
Enedwaith
[Dunland]
Druwaith Iaur
Adorn
[Moria]
Redhorn Pass
[Goblin-town]
High Pass
Evendim
North Downs
Ettenmoors
Angmar
Forochel
Forodwaith
[Gundabad]
Grey Mountains
Withered Heath
The Carrock
Gladden Fields
[Vales of the Anduin]
[Mirkwood]
Central Mirkwood
[Dol Guldur]
East Bight
[Erebor]
[Dale]
Esgaroth
Celduin
[Iron Hills]
West Rhovanion
Dorwinion
[Rhun]
South Rhovanion
Old Brown Lands
Dimrill Dale
[Lothlorien]
Celebrant
[Fangorn Forest]
The Wold
Gap of Rohan
[Isengard]
Helm's Deep
[Edoras]
West Emnet
East Emnet
Eastfold
Emyn Muil
Noman-lands
Dagorlad
Morannon (The Black Gate)
[Barad-Dur]
Anorien
North Ithilien
Cair Andros
Henneth Annun
Crossroads
Morgul Vale
[Minas Morgul]
Cirith Ungol
Osgiliath
Pelennor Fields
[Minas Tirith]
Emyn Arnen
South Ithilien
Crossings of Poros
Harondor
[Harad]
[Khand]
[Umbar]
Pelargir
Lebennin
Belfalas
Tolfalas
[Dol Amroth]
Lamedon
Anfalas
Andrast
So that makes twenty-four HQs/subs, and sixty-seven regions, if I counted correctly
Lots of stuff, ok. I'll take your point one by one.
The Crossroads is on the map. It is in the inset I added of Ithilien, due to the regions being too small to get names in there adequately.
Pelennor fields and Belfalas were certainly not in the old RP, nor should they be in this one.
I can certainly change weather hills to Lone lands.
The Eastfold and Westfold were very small, and were actually smaller divisions within the West/east emnets. It's a common misconception, so I decided to right it, and call them by their true names.
I saw a void where Nindalf was, and figured there wouldn't be any harm adding it in. If you'd like it to be named Noman lands instead, I can do so.
As far as Rhovanion is concerned, I can do some readjustments, but making Rhovanion three separate topic seems excessive.
Most of those adjustments seem fair. As far as Crossroads/morgul vale goes, I have the inset to see that region better. Morgul vale was just too small to fit in, and to be honest, I don't see a reason to have it.
First off, great job on the map, CC! And also, thanks EE for the above list!
Second, I just cross-references said map and above list. You might notice that most of the regions listed above are crossed out, and that's from my referencing them to CC's map. Each crossed-out region is both on the list (obviously) and the map. There are also a few with asterisks and whatever you call that other little thingy. The asterisks are just name things, while the other marks are for some actual changes/notes on the map.
But anyways, this is the list of regions that were on the map, but not the above list (and most of them I remember being in the old RP).
Forlindon (excluded from the old RP)
Harlindon (excluded from the old RP)
North Ered Luin
South Ered Luin
Old Forest
Forodwaith
Tharbad
Dimrill Dale
Helm's Deep
Dagorlad
Anorien
Henneth Annun
Cair Andros
Emyn Arnen
Cirith Ungol
Crossings of Poros
Pelargir
Tolfalas
(HQs/subs not on list):
Bree
Rivendell
Isengard
Moria
Gundabad
Mirkwood
Dol Guldur
Lothlorien
Fangorn
Edoras
Erebor
Dale
Rhun
Minas Morgul
Minas Tirith
Barad-dur
Harad
Umbar
Dol Amroth
Regions on list but not map:
Adorn
Regions on neither the map nor the list, but have been brought into my mind and I think were in the old RP:
Redhorn Pass
Belfalas
Crossroads
East Bight (?)
Pelennor Fields
Misty Mountains/Goblin-town (sub-HQ)
Name stuffs:
Weather Hills: Although this is on the map, it isn't on EE's list, and I don't recall it being in the old RP. We did, however, have the Lone-lands, which I believe were nearby, and could serve as the same region.
West Emnet/East Emnet: Neither of these regions were in EE's list either. However, EE mention the Westfold/Eastfold, and although these locations are slightly different, they could be interchangeable for our purposes (I don't remember what we did in the old RP). Actually, I think the Eastfold was south of the East Emnet, and west of Anorien (on the map, the part of West Emnet south of Edoras).
Nindalf: Again, not in EE's list, nor was it in the old RP. But as EE mentioned, the map is missing Noman's Land, which is nearby and could cover the same area.
Notes:
West/East/South Rhovanion: On CC's map, West Rhovanion is between Mirkwood and the Anduin, East Rhovanion is directly on the eastern side of Mirkwood, and there's a gap where South Rhovanion should be. In the old RP, West Rhovanion was where East Rhovanion and Dorwinion are on the map (Dorwinion, I think, was just in that little bit below the River Running that says "Sea of Rhun"), South Rhovanion was between West Rhovanion and the northern mountains of Mordor, and I think we had some other region instead of the map's West Rhovanion (it could be the Vales of the Anduin, which is now probably a sub-HQ).
Celduin/Iron Hills: I believe Celduin stretched a bit more northward, separating Erebor and the Iron Hills.
Khand: I think Khand also stretched more northward, connecting to Rhun behind Mordor's opening.
Crossroads/Morgul Vale: Currently it looks like there's an unlabeled region between Osgiliath and Minas Morgul. I think this would be the Crossroads, but Morgul Vale would also be in that general location (and was also in the old RP). The Morgul Vale should be between the Crossroads and Minas Morgul, and (on a related note) should have Cirith Ungol running between it and Mordor, alongside Minas Morgul.
For clarity purposes, CC, I think it would be helpful if you mentioned which locations were HQs and sub-HQs on the map. Here's the lists, at least of what it looks like they'll be.
HQs:
Bree
Mirkwood
Erebor
Dale
Edoras
Minas Tirith
Moria
Dol Guldur
Rhun
Isengard
Mordor
Harad
Sub-HQs:
Rivendell
Lothlorien
Iron Hills
Beornings (location undecided, perhaps Vales of the Anduin, The Carrock, or somewhere else in that vicinity)
Fangorn Forest
Dol Amroth
Goblin-town (just below the High Pass)
Gundabad
Khand
Dunland
Minas Morgul
Umbar
And last, but certainly not least, this is what I think our region list should be, after everything I mentioned above (excluding HQs, organized geographically starting from the Northeast, crossing the Misty Mountains, and then moving past Ithilien covering south of the White Mountains).
North Ered Luin
Grey Havens
South Ered Luin
The Shire
Old Forest
[Bree]
Weathertop
Lone Lands (Weather Hills)
Trollshaws
[Rivendell]
Minhiriath
Cardolan
Hollin (Eregion)
Tharbad
Enedwaith
[Dunland]
Druwaith Iaur
Adorn
[Moria]
Redhorn Pass
[Goblin-town]
High Pass
Evendim
North Downs
Ettenmoors
Angmar
Forochel
Forodwaith
[Gundabad]
Grey Mountains
Withered Heath
The Carrock
Gladden Fields
[Vales of the Anduin]
[Mirkwood]
Central Mirkwood
[Dol Guldur]
East Bight
[Erebor]
[Dale]
Esgaroth
Celduin
[Iron Hills]
West Rhovanion
Dorwinion
[Rhun]
South Rhovanion
Old Brown Lands
Dimrill Dale
[Lothlorien]
Celebrant
[Fangorn Forest]
The Wold
Gap of Rohan
[Isengard]
Helm's Deep
[Edoras]
West Emnet
East Emnet
Eastfold
Emyn Muil
Noman-lands
Dagorlad
Morannon (The Black Gate)
[Barad-Dur]
Anorien
North Ithilien
Cair Andros
Henneth Annun
Crossroads
Morgul Vale
[Minas Morgul]
Cirith Ungol
Osgiliath
Pelennor Fields
[Minas Tirith]
Emyn Arnen
South Ithilien
Crossings of Poros
Harondor
[Harad]
[Khand]
[Umbar]
Pelargir
Lebennin
Belfalas
Tolfalas
[Dol Amroth]
Lamedon
Anfalas
Andrast
So that makes twenty-four HQs/subs, and sixty-seven regions, if I counted correctly
Lots of stuff, ok. I'll take your point one by one.
The Crossroads is on the map. It is in the inset I added of Ithilien, due to the regions being too small to get names in there adequately.
Pelennor fields and Belfalas were certainly not in the old RP, nor should they be in this one.
I can certainly change weather hills to Lone lands.
The Eastfold and Westfold were very small, and were actually smaller divisions within the West/east emnets. It's a common misconception, so I decided to right it, and call them by their true names.
I saw a void where Nindalf was, and figured there wouldn't be any harm adding it in. If you'd like it to be named Noman lands instead, I can do so.
As far as Rhovanion is concerned, I can do some readjustments, but making Rhovanion three separate topic seems excessive.
Most of those adjustments seem fair. As far as Crossroads/morgul vale goes, I have the inset to see that region better. Morgul vale was just too small to fit in, and to be honest, I don't see a reason to have it.
Lots of stuff, ok. I'll take your point one by one.
The Crossroads is on the map. It is in the inset I added of Ithilien, due to the regions being too small to get names in there adequately.
Pelennor fields and Belfalas were certainly not in the old RP, nor should they be in this one.
I can certainly change weather hills to Lone lands.
The Eastfold and Westfold were very small, and were actually smaller divisions within the West/east emnets. It's a common misconception, so I decided to right it, and call them by their true names.
I saw a void where Nindalf was, and figured there wouldn't be any harm adding it in. If you'd like it to be named Noman lands instead, I can do so.
As far as Rhovanion is concerned, I can do some readjustments, but making Rhovanion three separate topic seems excessive.
Most of those adjustments seem fair. As far as Crossroads/morgul vale goes, I have the inset to see that region better. Morgul vale was just too small to fit in, and to be honest, I don't see a reason to have it.
Will there be enough MWE to cover 65+ regions?
I don't even know how the MWE system is going to work
Probably Rhun. Personally, I see Rhun built on chariots/wains, light horse-archers, and some light/medium infantry, while Khand more on medium/heavy infantry.
Ok that works for me. Do we want Rhun to get the gold armored troops from the TT?
First off, great job on the map, CC! And also, thanks EE for the above list!
Second, I just cross-references said map and above list. You might notice that most of the regions listed above are crossed out, and that's from my referencing them to CC's map. Each crossed-out region is both on the list (obviously) and the map. There are also a few with asterisks and whatever you call that other little thingy. The asterisks are just name things, while the other marks are for some actual changes/notes on the map.
But anyways, this is the list of regions that were on the map, but not the above list (and most of them I remember being in the old RP).
Forlindon (excluded from the old RP)
Harlindon (excluded from the old RP)
North Ered Luin
South Ered Luin
Old Forest
Forodwaith
Tharbad
Dimrill Dale
Helm's Deep
Dagorlad
Anorien
Henneth Annun
Cair Andros
Emyn Arnen
Cirith Ungol
Crossings of Poros
Pelargir
Tolfalas
(HQs/subs not on list):
Bree
Rivendell
Isengard
Moria
Gundabad
Mirkwood
Dol Guldur
Lothlorien
Fangorn
Edoras
Erebor
Dale
Rhun
Minas Morgul
Minas Tirith
Barad-dur
Harad
Umbar
Dol Amroth
Regions on list but not map:
Adorn
Regions on neither the map nor the list, but have been brought into my mind and I think were in the old RP:
Redhorn Pass
Belfalas
Crossroads
East Bight (?)
Pelennor Fields
Misty Mountains/Goblin-town (sub-HQ)
Name stuffs:
Weather Hills: Although this is on the map, it isn't on EE's list, and I don't recall it being in the old RP. We did, however, have the Lone-lands, which I believe were nearby, and could serve as the same region.
West Emnet/East Emnet: Neither of these regions were in EE's list either. However, EE mention the Westfold/Eastfold, and although these locations are slightly different, they could be interchangeable for our purposes (I don't remember what we did in the old RP). Actually, I think the Eastfold was south of the East Emnet, and west of Anorien (on the map, the part of West Emnet south of Edoras).
Nindalf: Again, not in EE's list, nor was it in the old RP. But as EE mentioned, the map is missing Noman's Land, which is nearby and could cover the same area.
Notes:
West/East/South Rhovanion: On CC's map, West Rhovanion is between Mirkwood and the Anduin, East Rhovanion is directly on the eastern side of Mirkwood, and there's a gap where South Rhovanion should be. In the old RP, West Rhovanion was where East Rhovanion and Dorwinion are on the map (Dorwinion, I think, was just in that little bit below the River Running that says "Sea of Rhun"), South Rhovanion was between West Rhovanion and the northern mountains of Mordor, and I think we had some other region instead of the map's West Rhovanion (it could be the Vales of the Anduin, which is now probably a sub-HQ).
Celduin/Iron Hills: I believe Celduin stretched a bit more northward, separating Erebor and the Iron Hills.
Khand: I think Khand also stretched more northward, connecting to Rhun behind Mordor's opening.
Crossroads/Morgul Vale: Currently it looks like there's an unlabeled region between Osgiliath and Minas Morgul. I think this would be the Crossroads, but Morgul Vale would also be in that general location (and was also in the old RP). The Morgul Vale should be between the Crossroads and Minas Morgul, and (on a related note) should have Cirith Ungol running between it and Mordor, alongside Minas Morgul.
For clarity purposes, CC, I think it would be helpful if you mentioned which locations were HQs and sub-HQs on the map. Here's the lists, at least of what it looks like they'll be.
HQs:
Bree
Mirkwood
Erebor
Dale
Edoras
Minas Tirith
Moria
Dol Guldur
Rhun
Isengard
Mordor
Harad
Sub-HQs:
Rivendell
Lothlorien
Iron Hills
Beornings (location undecided, perhaps Vales of the Anduin, The Carrock, or somewhere else in that vicinity)
Fangorn Forest
Dol Amroth
Goblin-town (just below the High Pass)
Gundabad
Khand
Dunland
Minas Morgul
Umbar
And last, but certainly not least, this is what I think our region list should be, after everything I mentioned above (excluding HQs, organized geographically starting from the Northeast, crossing the Misty Mountains, and then moving past Ithilien covering south of the White Mountains).
North Ered Luin
Grey Havens
South Ered Luin
The Shire
Old Forest
[Bree]
Weathertop
Lone Lands (Weather Hills)
Trollshaws
[Rivendell]
Minhiriath
Cardolan
Hollin (Eregion)
Tharbad
Enedwaith
[Dunland]
Druwaith Iaur
Adorn
[Moria]
Redhorn Pass
[Goblin-town]
High Pass
Evendim
North Downs
Ettenmoors
Angmar
Forochel
Forodwaith
[Gundabad]
Grey Mountains
Withered Heath
The Carrock
Gladden Fields
[Vales of the Anduin]
[Mirkwood]
Central Mirkwood
[Dol Guldur]
East Bight
[Erebor]
[Dale]
Esgaroth
Celduin
[Iron Hills]
West Rhovanion
Dorwinion
[Rhun]
South Rhovanion
Old Brown Lands
Dimrill Dale
[Lothlorien]
Celebrant
[Fangorn Forest]
The Wold
Gap of Rohan
[Isengard]
Helm's Deep
[Edoras]
West Emnet
East Emnet
Eastfold
Emyn Muil
Noman-lands
Dagorlad
Morannon (The Black Gate)
[Barad-Dur]
Anorien
North Ithilien
Cair Andros
Henneth Annun
Crossroads
Morgul Vale
[Minas Morgul]
Cirith Ungol
Osgiliath
Pelennor Fields
[Minas Tirith]
Emyn Arnen
South Ithilien
Crossings of Poros
Harondor
[Harad]
[Khand]
[Umbar]
Pelargir
Lebennin
Belfalas
Tolfalas
[Dol Amroth]
Lamedon
Anfalas
Andrast
So that makes twenty-four HQs/subs, and sixty-seven regions, if I counted correctly
Lots of stuff, ok. I'll take your point one by one.
The Crossroads is on the map. It is in the inset I added of Ithilien, due to the regions being too small to get names in there adequately.
Pelennor fields and Belfalas were certainly not in the old RP, nor should they be in this one.
I can certainly change weather hills to Lone lands.
The Eastfold and Westfold were very small, and were actually smaller divisions within the West/east emnets. It's a common misconception, so I decided to right it, and call them by their true names.
I saw a void where Nindalf was, and figured there wouldn't be any harm adding it in. If you'd like it to be named Noman lands instead, I can do so.
As far as Rhovanion is concerned, I can do some readjustments, but making Rhovanion three separate topic seems excessive.
Most of those adjustments seem fair. As far as Crossroads/morgul vale goes, I have the inset to see that region better. Morgul vale was just too small to fit in, and to be honest, I don't see a reason to have it.
It looks great. Thanks CC for making this and thanks EE/KK for pointing that out and by that I meen what you pointed out.
@cc I know it may seem like a lot to have 3 seperate Rhovanion regons. But there could be 4 to 5 HQs fighting over them. Its also what we had in the old RP.
@everyone It feels like we should have more reagons in the vale of the Aduniun area. Not just have two reagons.
I prepose to have the HQ between the carrock and the Gladen Fields. And then to make atleast one more reagon to the north of the Carrock that covers that area up to Mount Gundabad and the grey mountions.
I don't even know how the MWE system is going to work
Its the same as the "point" system in the old RP. Or troops. It is simply Ecthelion74's way of naming the 'points' that we used.
I know what the OLD MWE system was. But they way you phrased it sounded different from the old one. We used to have each region be able to rally 1,000 MWE to the HQ that owned it.
Its the same as the "point" system in the old RP. Or troops. It is simply Ecthelion74's way of naming the 'points' that we used.
I know what the OLD MWE system was. But they way you phrased it sounded different from the old one. We used to have each region be able to rally 1,000 MWE to the HQ that owned it.
Ok, just making sure. We should have engough since the regions provide a 65000+ MWE plus 12 HQ's each with 20000 MWE and their sub HQ with 10000 MWE that is over 400000 MWE. More than engough.
I know what the OLD MWE system was. But they way you phrased it sounded different from the old one. We used to have each region be able to rally 1,000 MWE to the HQ that owned it.
Ok, just making sure. We should have engough since the regions provide a 65000+ MWE plus 12 HQ's each with 20000 MWE and their sub HQ with 10000 MWE that is over 400000 MWE. More than engough.
I don't want things to get too complicated, but what if we cut everything in half? HQs get 10,000, subs get 5,000, regions grant 500?
May wanna check with KitKat on that.
