. . . I have no idea what you're talking about. What message by Helios?
Helios sent an illegal PM to everyone who didn't like several people being Admins to try and convince them that Shamrock is terrible.
Hello LAF,
Could you please explain what was illegal about my PM, and why sending it was an issue? Everything that was contained within is entirely truthful, and even Shamrock will agree he said the things within.
It's a bit harder than that honestly. Users aren't getting the full story from anything you've read (that includes sham's post) so if I was a user I'd honestly just ignore it all. I disagree with the idea of the community being dragged into this but sadly some staff seem to think that's necessary. If I were you guys and girls I'd just carry on posting, this stuff will sort itself with time.
Are you telling me ignore the fate of the whole boards? Well, it's quite too noticeable to ignore.
And why is your avatar scary now?
I'm telling you to ignore things people aren't being honest with you about. The site won't die as a result of bickering in what is supposed to be private discussions between staff. As I said people here are more than likely basing opinions on half-truths or worse, lies. I'm not prepared to breach the privacy of my fellow staff members, I'm more saddened that others felt it was okay to do.
Are you telling me ignore the fate of the whole boards? Well, it's quite too noticeable to ignore.
And why is your avatar scary now?
I'm telling you to ignore things people aren't being honest with you about. The site won't die as a result of bickering in what is supposed to be private discussions between staff. As I said people here are more than likely basing opinions on half-truths or worse, lies. I'm not prepared to breach the privacy of my fellow staff members, I'm more saddened that others felt it was okay to do.
Are you saying Shamrock's a liar? Well it's not private now, that's for sure. I know it should be private, so you didn't have to put "private" on bold.
Ya know, this WHOLE THING is distasteful! I'm almost glad I'm probably going inactive soon. And if I ever come back, that's when someone tells me it's over!
I'm telling you to ignore things people aren't being honest with you about. The site won't die as a result of bickering in what is supposed to be private discussions between staff. As I said people here are more than likely basing opinions on half-truths or worse, lies. I'm not prepared to breach the privacy of my fellow staff members, I'm more saddened that others felt it was okay to do.
Are you saying Shamrock's a liar? Well it's not private now, that's for sure. I know it should be private, so you didn't have to put "private" on bold.
If you pay attention to my wording I'm not calling anyone a liar nor did I confirm the existence of lies in either Sham or Helios' point of view. That all being said Sham's POV is not the whole truth and solely believing him and nothing else is the wrong way to form a judgement, as is solely believing any side of a story, not just Sham's. The discussions are for the most part still private, unless people have read chat logs they won't get the full truth. What you've got publicly is at most bits and pieces or in Sham's case a summary based on his POV.
As someone in a STEM degree this is drilled into me but when someone tells you something, verify it, don't just take their word for it. Sadly, in this case, you won't actually get the full truth which is why I said you are best ignoring it and letting staff settle this issue in private without dragging the community through the mud for the fun of it.
Are you saying Shamrock's a liar? Well it's not private now, that's for sure. I know it should be private, so you didn't have to put "private" on bold.
If you pay attention to my wording I'm not calling anyone a liar nor did I confirm the existence of lies in either Sham or Helios' point of view. That all being said Sham's POV is not the whole truth and solely believing him and nothing else is the wrong way to form a judgement, as is solely believing any side of a story, not just Sham's. The discussions are for the most part still private, unless people have read chat logs they won't get the full truth. What you've got publicly is at most bits and pieces or in Sham's case a summary based on his POV.
As someone in a STEM degree this is drilled into me but when someone tells you something, verify it, don't just take their word for it. Sadly, in this case, you won't actually get the full truth which is why I said you are best ignoring it and letting staff settle this issue in private without dragging the community through the mud for the fun of it.
Ya know, I think you should be head admin.
So you're in a STEM degree? Which part: Science, Technology, Engineering, or Math?
If you pay attention to my wording I'm not calling anyone a liar nor did I confirm the existence of lies in either Sham or Helios' point of view. That all being said Sham's POV is not the whole truth and solely believing him and nothing else is the wrong way to form a judgement, as is solely believing any side of a story, not just Sham's. The discussions are for the most part still private, unless people have read chat logs they won't get the full truth. What you've got publicly is at most bits and pieces or in Sham's case a summary based on his POV.
As someone in a STEM degree this is drilled into me but when someone tells you something, verify it, don't just take their word for it. Sadly, in this case, you won't actually get the full truth which is why I said you are best ignoring it and letting staff settle this issue in private without dragging the community through the mud for the fun of it.
Ya know, I think you should be head admin.
So you're in a STEM degree? Which part: Science, Technology, Engineering, or Math?
Thanks but I honestly might have had enough with the "head admin" role, I used to have it on a place that has long since died (so no point asking me for a name/link).
I'm studying Mathematics & Physics, the title kind of gives it away, half maths, half physics.
So you're in a STEM degree? Which part: Science, Technology, Engineering, or Math?
Thanks but I honestly might have had enough with the "head admin" role, I used to have it on a place that has long since died (so no point asking me for a name/link).
I'm studying Mathematics & Physics, the title kind of gives it away, half maths, half physics.
That just means that you have experience!
Okay, fun! I've thought of maybe majoring in math(s), but maybe just because my mom and dad both did. My dad also minored in physics.
Ya know, this WHOLE THING is distasteful! I'm almost glad I'm probably going inactive soon. And if I ever come back, that's when someone tells me it's over!
. . . I thought you were going to become a mod.
Although I appreciate the openness of the mods here (maybe everyone will disagree with me there, but don't hurt me. ) I also wish that maybe they could have their discussions a little more privately, as on the old LMBs.
Are you saying Shamrock's a liar? Well it's not private now, that's for sure. I know it should be private, so you didn't have to put "private" on bold.
The site won't die as a result of bickering in what is supposed to be private discussions between staff. As I said people here are more than likely basing opinions on half-truths or worse, lies. I'm not prepared to breach the privacy of my fellow staff members, I'm more saddened that others felt it was okay to do.
Well it's not private now, that's for sure. I know it should be private, so you didn't have to put "private" on bold. 
) I also wish that maybe they could have their discussions a little more privately, as on the old LMBs.