*A fleet of warships and troop transports lands north of the Corsairs, and 2,400 troops with siege engines disembark, then march inland to get between the Corsairs and Emyn Arnen*
*Said fleet departs southwest along the Anduin, heading for the Bay of Belfalas.*
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Sense I claimed the region at the beginning of the RP. So I have troops her. You can want all you want, but that doesn't mean you are going to get it. Your troops wouldn't have seen them since they where hiding. You could just pass through with around 1000 losses. And be done with this.
1. They have shields. 2. They have armor. 3. Yes, unless you're firing crossbows and not reloading them, my troops could see your archers. *The ballistae and archers here open fire towards the direction from which came the arrows.*
Yes, but these are rangers, who can shoot in the gaps in the armor, and around the shields. They are doing hit and run attacks.
8Legos, where are you exactly in this region? I'm assuming the Rohirrim army was marching along the road, so for you to ambush them you'd also have to be along the road. Where are your troops along the road?
That is correct, they are spread out on the road, doing hit and run attacks on the Rohirrim.
1. They have shields. 2. They have armor. 3. Yes, unless you're firing crossbows and not reloading them, my troops could see your archers. *The ballistae and archers here open fire towards the direction from which came the arrows.*
Yes, but these are rangers, who can shoot in the gaps in the armor, and around the shields. They are doing hit and run attacks.
Archers are stationary; they can't do hit-and-run attacks. Also, shields cover most of the body, not just a small portion; but I'll let Bobby take over from here.
Yes, but these are rangers, who can shoot in the gaps in the armor, and around the shields. They are doing hit and run attacks.
Archers are stationary; they can't do hit-and-run attacks. Also, shields cover most of the body, not just a small portion; but I'll let Bobby take over from here.
The shoot an arrow and run away and then do that some where else on the line, they are not stationary, you've read RA rangers are nor stationary. How big are these shields? And are they carying them ready for battle for miles and miles?
Archers are stationary; they can't do hit-and-run attacks. Also, shields cover most of the body, not just a small portion; but I'll let Bobby take over from here.
The shoot an arrow and run away and then do that some where else on the line, they are not stationary, you've read RA rangers are nor stationary. How big are these shields? And are they carying them ready for battle for miles and miles?
You're assuming that there's lots of easily accessed cover, as would be found on a wall with a rampart; however, in nature, the best covered spots would be in bushes or very rocky land, which you can't easily run through. As to the shields, I don't know about 'swordsmen' but I was thinking legionnaire-type shields, and yes, that's the point of formations.
Archers are stationary; they can't do hit-and-run attacks. Also, shields cover most of the body, not just a small portion; but I'll let Bobby take over from here.
The shoot an arrow and run away and then do that some where else on the line, they are not stationary, you've read RA rangers are nor stationary. How big are these shields? And are they carying them ready for battle for miles and miles?
8legos, when your companion gets shot you tend to hold your shield ready for battle
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The shoot an arrow and run away and then do that some where else on the line, they are not stationary, you've read RA rangers are nor stationary. How big are these shields? And are they carying them ready for battle for miles and miles?
8legos, when your companion gets shot you tend to hold your shield ready for battle
I'm just saying the S ithilian region is over 50 miles long and if you march at 3 MPH a average speed. it would take more than 16 hours, and I know I would get tired if I had to hold a 10+ pound shield at the ready for much more than 30 minuates.
The shoot an arrow and run away and then do that some where else on the line, they are not stationary, you've read RA rangers are nor stationary. How big are these shields? And are they carying them ready for battle for miles and miles?
You're assuming that there's lots of easily accessed cover, as would be found on a wall with a rampart; however, in nature, the best covered spots would be in bushes or very rocky land, which you can't easily run through. As to the shields, I don't know about 'swordsmen' but I was thinking legionnaire-type shields, and yes, that's the point of formations.
S Ithilien is likely where the rangers ambushed the Haradrim in the TT and there was pleanty of cover for them. There was pleanty of trees and plants offering easy cover for a trained ranger, where does it say that all there was is bushes and rocky land? What troops are here their Rohiriim right? Throughout the whole movie and book you see the Rohirrim with round buckler shields, not Scutums beside if they are cavalry (like most Rohirim) they wouldn't be able to realistically fight on horseback with such a large shield.
You're assuming that there's lots of easily accessed cover, as would be found on a wall with a rampart; however, in nature, the best covered spots would be in bushes or very rocky land, which you can't easily run through. As to the shields, I don't know about 'swordsmen' but I was thinking legionnaire-type shields, and yes, that's the point of formations.
S Ithilien is likely where the rangers ambushed the Haradrim in the TT and there was pleanty of cover for them. There was pleanty of trees and plants offering easy cover for a trained ranger, where does it say that all there was is bushes and rocky land? What troops are here their Rohiriim right? Throughout the whole movie and book you see the Rohirrim with round buckler shields, not Scutums beside if they are cavalry (like most Rohirim) they wouldn't be able to realistically fight on horseback with such a large shield.
No, they ambushed them well into North Ithilien, well north of the Crossroads. North Ithilien, yes, is more heavily wooded, and the ground is more hilly as it falls down from the mountains to the Anduin.
We don't really know about South Ithilien, it appears more open on the map, but it's not like the maps include every single geographical feature.
The troops here are: 1,000 Pikemen (2,000 MWE) 1,000 Spearmen (1,000 MWE) 1,000 Cataphracts (4,000 MWE) 1,000 archers (1,000 MWE).
*The cataphracts urge their horses on, and swiftly move out of range and outpace their enemies, they press on to the Crossings of Poros and exit the region*
*the Infantry move on swiftly the archers returning fire with massive volleys directed at any enemy who fires on them, and then exit the region with losses*
S Ithilien is likely where the rangers ambushed the Haradrim in the TT and there was pleanty of cover for them. There was pleanty of trees and plants offering easy cover for a trained ranger, where does it say that all there was is bushes and rocky land? What troops are here their Rohiriim right? Throughout the whole movie and book you see the Rohirrim with round buckler shields, not Scutums beside if they are cavalry (like most Rohirim) they wouldn't be able to realistically fight on horseback with such a large shield.
No, they ambushed them well into North Ithilien, well north of the Crossroads. North Ithilien, yes, is more heavily wooded, and the ground is more hilly as it falls down from the mountains to the Anduin.
We don't really know about South Ithilien, it appears more open on the map, but it's not like the maps include every single geographical feature.
The troops here are: 1,000 Pikemen (2,000 MWE) 1,000 Spearmen (1,000 MWE) 1,000 Cataphracts (4,000 MWE) 1,000 archers (1,000 MWE).
Oh, did they? Than the Haradrim where marching past Minas Morgul, and backtracking through Mordor? Where does it say that? Just wondering, It's not that I don't believe you, I just want to see it myself.
On all the maps I've seen North Ithilien doesn't have much either. True true.
Legolas did start an elven conlliy there, and I think there would have been trees there, and if not, they would have planted some. "it became once again the fairest country in all the westlands" which means in the lotr defenation of "fair" is lush and green, and forested. Before you or someones else say that it was in the north, the reason why the elves moved there is to be near the ocean, and that is where they would settled.
Ok thanks. I'll move in my other post, in reply to yours.
*The cataphracts urge their horses on, and swiftly move out of range and outpace their enemies, they press on to the Crossings of Poros and exit the region*
*the Infantry move on swiftly the archers returning fire with massive volleys directed at any enemy who fires on them, and then exit the region with losses*
*before they ride away, my troops fire on your cataphracts taking down around 75*
*The troops then focus on the pikemen, and archers, ducking behind cover as soon as they shoot their arrow.*
OOC: This will tire out your troops which will make them less effective at the poros, just FYI.
No, they ambushed them well into North Ithilien, well north of the Crossroads. North Ithilien, yes, is more heavily wooded, and the ground is more hilly as it falls down from the mountains to the Anduin.
We don't really know about South Ithilien, it appears more open on the map, but it's not like the maps include every single geographical feature.
The troops here are: 1,000 Pikemen (2,000 MWE) 1,000 Spearmen (1,000 MWE) 1,000 Cataphracts (4,000 MWE) 1,000 archers (1,000 MWE).
Oh, did they? Than the Haradrim where marching past Minas Morgul, and backtracking through Mordor? Where does it say that? Just wondering, It's not that I don't believe you, I just want to see it myself.
On all the maps I've seen North Ithilien doesn't have much either. True true.
Legolas did start an elven conlliy there, and I think there would have been trees there, and if not, they would have planted some. "it became once again the fairest country in all the westlands" which means in the lotr defenation of "fair" is lush and green, and forested. Before you or someones else say that it was in the north, the reason why the elves moved there is to be near the ocean, and that is where they would settled.
Ok thanks. I'll move in my other post, in reply to yours.
The Haradrim must have been heading the Black Gate. We know this because the amush happened north of the Crossroads. It's obvious. Frodo and Sam were still in the north of North Ithilien when the rangers found them, and they got caught up in the ambush, and then taken to Henneth annun, which only took a short while, and Henneth Annun is also in the north of North Ithilien.
I guess it doesn't on Tolkien's Maps. It does in the Atlas of Middle-earth, however. :tounge:
Maybe. Legolas does say that Anduin is near, and Anduin leads down to the sea, which could be interpreted that they settled not near the sea itself. Or not. :tounge:
Oh, did they? Than the Haradrim where marching past Minas Morgul, and backtracking through Mordor? Where does it say that? Just wondering, It's not that I don't believe you, I just want to see it myself.
On all the maps I've seen North Ithilien doesn't have much either. True true.
Legolas did start an elven conlliy there, and I think there would have been trees there, and if not, they would have planted some. "it became once again the fairest country in all the westlands" which means in the lotr defenation of "fair" is lush and green, and forested. Before you or someones else say that it was in the north, the reason why the elves moved there is to be near the ocean, and that is where they would settled.
Ok thanks. I'll move in my other post, in reply to yours.
The Haradrim must have been heading the Black Gate. We know this because the amush happened north of the Crossroads. It's obvious. Frodo and Sam were still in the north of North Ithilien when the rangers found them, and they got caught up in the ambush, and then taken to Henneth annun, which only took a short while, and Henneth Annun is also in the north of North Ithilien.
I guess it doesn't on Tolkien's Maps. It does in the Atlas of Middle-earth, however. :tounge:
Maybe. Legolas does say that Anduin is near, and Anduin leads down to the sea, which could be interpreted that they settled not near the sea itself. Or not. :tounge:
Ok, but I still think it makes more sense for the Haradrim to be going to Minas Morgul, maybe that is another of Tolkiens errors.
Which as you know isn't canon.
I think that the elves would have lived through out that whole land and would have made it green.