It Involves the Old Covenant, plus nowhere is it found in the bible the Instruments were used in worship.
It does in Psalms, which I already showed you. Being in the Old Testament does not make it irrelevant. Jesus quoted Old Testament scripture to fight temptation in the New Testament.
He also said we have a new covenant, why don't we have animal sacrifices or Priests, or Temples?
But Holy is without Sin, we have sin, were evil and we continue to sin, were evil. I am, you are no one isn't.
Holy: "dedicated or consecrated to God or a religious purpose;" "sacred." It doesn't mean sinless, it means set apart. It doesn't mean better than, it means different than.
But Holy is set apart, apart from this world apart from Sin.
there are practical things which we do, but when worship I follow what the Bible says, Christmas is not in the Bible, its founded of Pagan symbols and rituals and whitewashed with Christianty.
I'd say it's founded on Christianity and whitewashed with pagan things by our secular culture.
Far from it, there was Sinterklaus or something like that in Pagan Germany.
That is true, but Nazi Germany, Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge, and a few others were way worse.
I'd still consider that a point of debate, but "how evil this country is" tends to be a point of subjectivity. I actually have an easier solution: they were all horrible and we shouldn't in any way degrade just how awful they were by saying one was less awful than another.
That is true. Those countries were pretty darn horrible.
I'd still consider that a point of debate, but "how evil this country is" tends to be a point of subjectivity. I actually have an easier solution: they were all horrible and we shouldn't in any way degrade just how awful they were by saying one was less awful than another.
I still consider ussr much higher than mao's china or the Khmer rouge, sure we killed some folks, But we also lifted millions of people out of poverty. Brought literacy to the masses. Created a massive industrilaized superpower. Was the ussr flawed? yes, but so are all countries (Except Finland ). the government may have committed horrific autrocities but the people were by far some of the best during the ussr. Its hard for westernsers to understand this but the Asian (or eastern) mindset is just far more accustomed to authoritarian leadership and to many people in Russia and China and other eastern countries a strong government is a necessity not a hinderance. Now some might say wha about Japan? Japan changed a lot since 1945. South Korea changed a lot also but we must forget SK had a dictator for its first 2 decades or so.
"Sure, we killed some folks"
Do you not hear what's wrong with that sentence? You're causally dismissing deaths. That should never, ever, be done, not if it's even one death, and we are discussing TENS OF MILLIONS!!!!!!!
"Lifted millions out of Poverty"
You mean after millions upon millions died in the collectivization, either by being "liquidated" or by starving to death?
"Brought literacy to the masses"
Sure, if you read and wrote the books the government wanted you to read, and if you didn't speak against it. Otherwise you might be tortured and murdered.
"Created a massive industrial superpower"
For a while, yes. Even evil governments can, at least for a while, be at least somewhat economically successful. It's fine if you ignore all the oppression and murder and poverty and how they're still backward and eventually it all falls apart and they could probably achieved far more success without the mass murder if they had just implemented smart, capitalist economic policies that actually work.
"Was the ussr flawed? yes, but so are all countries"
Not all countries are evil dictatorships.
"the government may have committed horrific autrocities but the people were by far some of the best during the ussr."
Maybe they weren't. Probably. The people in oppressed countries are seldom as evil as their goverments.
"Its hard for westernsers to understand this but the Asian (or eastern) mindset is just far more accustomed to authoritarian leadership and to many people in Russia and China and other eastern countries a strong government is a necessity not a hinderance"
Several points:
1. The "you just don't/can't understand argument is one of the lamest, weakest, and oldest in the book.
2. Oh, people are accustomed to this evil, it's fine no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no!
Even if that is true, just because people are accustomed to evil does not justify it!!!!! The only reason they would be accustomed is because people were evil in the first place!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And, those dictatorships try to suppress knowledge of freedom and liberty!!!!
And, as for viewing it as a necessity, not a hindrance,
(deep breath)
I IMAGINE THE TENS OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE MURDERED BY THE SOVIET UNION WOULD HAVE TO SOMETHING TO SAY AGAINST THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
