But, its still too rushed. I want to settle things with the Crawlers before having my discombobulated attention directed toward the ice tribes. Major battles are taking place or are about to take place. So I would like to ask for this season to be prolonged just until we straighten out things with the Crawlers. The fire and ice stuff could still be held in their own bases and privately for the time.
We'd already been waiting quite a while though. You weren't here for a while, but the Outland-related stuff dragged on for a reaaaallly long time, and almost everyone seemed to be getting tired of it. The war between the inlanders and outlanders lasted almost all of 2017, and well into 2018. We took a vote and decided that the Ice Hunters could come in February. Besides, we already hinted at the fire and Ice tribes and built them up since like, October. The introduction of the Ice Hunters may seem rushed to people who just got here or came back, but for the rest of us, especially those of us who RP as Ice Hunters, it took an excruciatingly long time.
The Vultures and Ice Bears (my two Ice Hunter tribes) are interrupting the final battles on purpose. The Crawlers (or at least my tribe the bats) will be defeated by the Ice Hunters, as was the plan.
But that's not what happened in the real Chima line!!!
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I mean, we had a vote on it and the results have been followed. Trying to set it back more wouldn’t be very fair to everyone else who has been RPing as them so far and building up to their current arrival.
Just wondering, did you vote in that vote?
Nope, my brother and I were inactive for a while so I probably don't have much say according to most bit its just an appeal to reverse the current ruling. They would keep all their current moves until when they would come back again.
Nope, my brother and I were inactive for a while so I probably don't have much say according to most bit its just an appeal to reverse the current ruling. They would keep all their current moves until when they would come back again.
The votes already been decide. Sorry man.
Have you ever heard of a court appeal?
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The thing is, things with the Crawlers can't be settled with the Crawlers for at least a few months without the Ice Hunters. The Chima Alliance has a supply of Chi, so they can now effectively fight, which they couldn't before. However, the Crawlers still have an undeniable advantage. As shown in the TV show, when the Wolves steal all the Chi, the Sacred Pool refills very slowly, and all eight Inland Tribes have to get their share every month. Even though the tribes other than the Wolves were getting Chi, it didn't compare with the amount the Wolves had stolen, so they just had to do their best until the wolves burnt through their Chi and the other tribes had built up theirs.
This situation is basically the same - the Inland Tribes are getting Chi, but they have nowhere near enough to defeat the Crawler Empire. If they unite their forces, they can crush smaller Crawler armies, but as soon as reinforcements arrive with a massive amount of Chi, the Inlanders will be crushed. Things will stagnate and become boring if we choose to wait until the Crawlers run out of Chi, as they won't be doing that anytime soon.
The arrival of the Ice Hunters gives a good explanation for the fall of the Crawler Empire. It means that the homes of the Crawlers and everyone there is frozen, and the Ice Hunters get Chi. With their eastern bases frozen, the Crawler Empire is weakened to a force that can actually be fought with a chance of victory by the Chima Alliance.
It's a matter of choosing whether we want to prolong this conflict for months more, or follow through with the result of the community vote we had and introduce the Ice Hunters now. Remember, not all Crawlers will necessarily be frozen, and we've agreed to make the Ice Hunter war last as long as possible, probably until about September, so frozen people will likely be freed and other people frozen over the course of it.
There are still undeniable advantages we have that the Crawlers do not for instance: 1: The fact that the Crawlers are only three tribes and the inlanders are 6, and yes I understand that the eagles and the Crocodiles have joined the Crawlers putting them up to 5 tribes, which I think is odd in the first place, but still. 2: The inlanders have been around more than the Crawlers, the Inlanders know the terrain thry are fighting on and they have more men because they have had time to grow. Inlanders also have better technology from being around so long. And in the end of the Chima episodes, the Crawlers released the ice tribes after they were vanquished by 8 Chimians and their legend beasts, which I think is unfair that you guys haven't even brought the legend beasts into the picture yet. 3: As soon as the icy's enter in, it would be illogical to fight them because not only will the Crawlers be being frozen, so will the Inlanders. So insane peace agreements shall try to be arranged that will be like, "We keep all your land we have conquered and you will not attack us. If you don't accept you will be wiped out." 4: It won't be prolonged for months, the Crawlers have to think about the current civil war that is happening back at their HQ. And the Inlanders are gaining the advantage because the Crawlers have dispersed their forces way too much and have brought in their civilians in an attempt to gain sympathy from the tribes and to have them just go along with everything. It seems like its coming to a close but the Ice hunters will attack and disrupt the disruption. Its not even logical how the ice hunters are breaking free because they broke free in the Outlands in the Crawlers main HQ. I thought we were sticking semi canon, its now evolved to only the themes are being kept. Honestly the only thing that makes us the Chima RP right now is that we cal each other animals and that we say Chima civil wars 1st, Outlands 2nd and Ice hunters after that. That's it! I thought we would at least resemble something of the real thing. Now it's more a Fantasy/Futuristic/Medieval RP. I know I'm probably jealous for not being here but I agree with Smirnov. Crawlers have no experience.
1) SPIDERS ARE NOT IN THE CRAWLER EMPIRE!!! SO ITS 4 (including crocs and eagles)
2) We decided a long time ago, not to use legend beasts.
The RP isn’t a justice system and shouldn’t function like one. It’s best to make a decision and stick with it imo. Feel free to try and get a revote though.
The RP isn’t a justice system and shouldn’t function like one. It’s best to make a decision and stick with it imo. Feel free to try and get a revote though.
Rgr on all accounts.
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The thing is, things with the Crawlers can't be settled with the Crawlers for at least a few months without the Ice Hunters. The Chima Alliance has a supply of Chi, so they can now effectively fight, which they couldn't before. However, the Crawlers still have an undeniable advantage. As shown in the TV show, when the Wolves steal all the Chi, the Sacred Pool refills very slowly, and all eight Inland Tribes have to get their share every month. Even though the tribes other than the Wolves were getting Chi, it didn't compare with the amount the Wolves had stolen, so they just had to do their best until the wolves burnt through their Chi and the other tribes had built up theirs.
This situation is basically the same - the Inland Tribes are getting Chi, but they have nowhere near enough to defeat the Crawler Empire. If they unite their forces, they can crush smaller Crawler armies, but as soon as reinforcements arrive with a massive amount of Chi, the Inlanders will be crushed. Things will stagnate and become boring if we choose to wait until the Crawlers run out of Chi, as they won't be doing that anytime soon.
The arrival of the Ice Hunters gives a good explanation for the fall of the Crawler Empire. It means that the homes of the Crawlers and everyone there is frozen, and the Ice Hunters get Chi. With their eastern bases frozen, the Crawler Empire is weakened to a force that can actually be fought with a chance of victory by the Chima Alliance.
It's a matter of choosing whether we want to prolong this conflict for months more, or follow through with the result of the community vote we had and introduce the Ice Hunters now. Remember, not all Crawlers will necessarily be frozen, and we've agreed to make the Ice Hunter war last as long as possible, probably until about September, so frozen people will likely be freed and other people frozen over the course of it.
Ok, my problem with this analogy, the issue in the show was that no one stored chi, it fealt like everyone was Kenseyian, but that's not the point, here tribes stored chi for later use which proved great for fighting the crawlers. So no the situation is not the same.
The Crawler Empire is in perhaps of a worse situation or atleast one that is equally bad compared to the chima alliance, this is shown by how ridiculously compromising they are in every single treaty - say what you will about the fair deal - (Gorillas proposal to peace to the crawlers)- it doesn't punish the crawlers - sure, but it establishes Chima alliance dominance.
Here is a run down of crawler fails/ weakness:
Failure to react to rhino annexation
Failure to react to rhinos not willing to share annexed land
Failure to secure Bear lands after massive spending and 3 or 4 major battles there
Failure to keep there empire from being split in 2 by a gorilla wall
Failure to unite their own people under one cause (Looking at you - scorpions)
Failure to protect any of their leaders
Failure to ensure loyalty of top generals and officials
Failure to make an attack that doesn't cost many lives (Eagle invasion of the gorillas with 51% loss on the eagles side)
Failure to secure there own main HQs (Both Scorpion HQ, taken over by Combine, and Black Fang Mountain sieged)
Failure to attack an HQ with no NAVY - why are the wolves still so safe, they do absolutely nothing to protect themselves!
Failure to establish treaties in which they have a great deal (This excludes Casablanche, that was smart)
Those are some monumental failures, sure they secured key important allies - Eagles and crocs, possibly some of the best allies, however this also can be used as a reason to explain why the Chima Alliance will survive for longer than the crawler empire.
@both the things with the rhinos: those aren't failures. We signed a peace treaty with the rhinos, remember? Not only that, but the rhinos also had a valid reason for the annexation. We could've obliterated them, but instead we reasonably let them go about their annexations. @bear lands: you do realize we could've kept the villages protected with that vehicle wall (and the actual walls) forever, right? Scorpix just got tired of defending those villages when we already have plenty of villages elsewhere, so he logically gave the territory up to the persistent inlanders. We have more than enough villages and cities for our civilians elsewhere, so giving up those small forest villages is not at all a failure. @split in half Empire: Hawaii is very far away from the rest of the US. Doesn't limit it's communication and connection with the US. Compared to an ocean, there is a tiny gap between the Crawler Desert and the southern empire, one that we can easily fly over, high out of range of the gorillas' anti-aircraft. @unity: Fair enough, but that's Scortica's and the Forgotten's fault. And all of the Bat population, along with most of the scorpion population, are united. @leader protection: The only reason Scorm got captured was because he recklessly entered Lion territory. The only reason Bliston was captured was because he was betrayed at the last second by the scumbag Gorbav, and in a place that limited communication. @loyalty: Only Decade's characters defected, because they do their own stuff, so that's not really the Empire to blame for that. @hqs: Black Fang Mountain will fall to the icebears, yes, but the Gorillas really aren't a threat to a literal mountain. @wolf HQ: We don't care about the wolves, simple as that. We only attack to conquer, and we have obtained enough land. So not a failure. @treaties: Wrong. May I remind you that we did establish greats treaties with the gorillas, rhinos, Eagles, Crocodiles, and Forgotten eagles, except the gorillas backstabbed us and the lions refuse to negotiate.
That's true to an extent. However, I've done some research and I don't believe that Chi stores from before Cavora was drained will be enough. Look at this: "Chi has many unique qualities and rules that affect the entire Kingdom of Chima. There can never be too much or too little Chi in the Sacred Pool, or Chima will suffer catastrophic natural disasters. The balance of Chi affects the entire natural balance of Chima. Thus, the Sacred Pool can never be drained or allowed to overflow. This means limiting the tribes' use of Chi, but also ensures that the Chi is regularly being used. This is why the Lions always distribute the Chi to the tribes, even when some of these tribes are their enemies. They can’t just dump the Chi to balance the flow. They must ensure that the Chi is used, or else the Kingdom of Chima will fall out of balance and suffer untold calamities."
This suggests that storing Chi for long periods of time (a couple of weeks would probably be OK, but after that, I imagine they'd use that Chi and put fresh into storage) is not a viable option. Also, most Chi stores will have been used keeping tribes operating. Every vehicle that moves, machine that builds, et cetera, uses Chi. Given my first point, it's unlikely the Chima Alliance would have enough Chi saved that they wouldn't have used most of it.
The Crawlers don't have enough experience to handle war affairs because they haven't been in a war until now, many Crawlers would fall against the battle hardened Veterans the Inlanders have. The tribes would have immediately gone into Chi conservation for only battle purposes.
Actually, King Bliston, General Scorpix, and Grand Admiral Balthazar spent a ton of time researching Chima's war history before going to war.
We'd already been waiting quite a while though. You weren't here for a while, but the Outland-related stuff dragged on for a reaaaallly long time, and almost everyone seemed to be getting tired of it. The war between the inlanders and outlanders lasted almost all of 2017, and well into 2018. We took a vote and decided that the Ice Hunters could come in February. Besides, we already hinted at the fire and Ice tribes and built them up since like, October. The introduction of the Ice Hunters may seem rushed to people who just got here or came back, but for the rest of us, especially those of us who RP as Ice Hunters, it took an excruciatingly long time.
The Vultures and Ice Bears (my two Ice Hunter tribes) are interrupting the final battles on purpose. The Crawlers (or at least my tribe the bats) will be defeated by the Ice Hunters, as was the plan.
But that's not what happened in the real Chima line!!!
I think it's cooler (no pun intended) if the Ice Hunters come from an Arctic Northern Region. This is more of a reboot anyway, I mean, the fact that the Crawlers are evolved here makes this a separate continuity from the show, since Laval evolved them in the show.
The Crawlers don't have enough experience to handle war affairs because they haven't been in a war until now, many Crawlers would fall against the battle hardened Veterans the Inlanders have. The tribes would have immediately gone into Chi conservation for only battle purposes.
Actually, King Bliston, General Scorpix, and Grand Admiral Balthazar spent a ton of time researching Chima's war history before going to war.
How could they do so when they don't have that kinda information. They would have to get it from someplace.
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But that's not what happened in the real Chima line!!!
I think it's cooler (no pun intended) if the Ice Hunters come from an Arctic Northern Region. This is more of a reboot anyway, I mean, the fact that the Crawlers are evolved here makes this a separate continuity from the show, since Laval evolved them in the show.
Maybe just a bit cooler...
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thepegleggedninja, Torahvision, FelipeDutra, batonmaster500, and Shamrock. Members of the FAC: I have noticed that Shamrock holds a sizeable stash of tribes due to the fact that many tribe leaders left for a while, but now some of them are back, and I think that Shamrock should turn over a couple of the HQ's to their original owners. For instance, Shamrock is currently in charge of: 1: The Eagles 2: The Crocodiles 3: The Ravens 4: The Sabertooths 5: And now almost, the Gorillas I suggest that Torahvision takes back the Ravens with complete authority, cowansm3 takes back the eagles with complete authority, and if legobuilder0925 wants the Crocodiles back, he can have them with complete authority, and that somebody else takes the Gorilla HQ now that Egorsmirnov is gone, or he can have it if legobuilder0925 takes the Crocodiles back. That would leave Shamrock with the Sabertooths, the Gorrilas or Crocodiles or just the Sabertooths. Please consider my observation. Thank you. That is, of course, if legobuilder0925 and cowansam3 are active. If they will not, then we could get someone else more active, but I think they will be.
No offense to you, at all, Shamrock. You're a great RPer.
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You're a great RPer.
