Ara-son is Eldarion (canon) with a twin sister Diadem (non-canon)
And Fara-son is Elboron (so, canon?), I've come up with two female names which might come in handy for Éo-daughter (non-canon), being Nahmé and Gilda. What do you think? The former sounds more elvish, so Gilda, possibly?
Oh no Tauriel... So Tauriel (non-canon) has a bro, Angruin (non-canon).
Not-Haldir (non-canon - why is he called Haldir? )) has a son, Corathon (non-canon).
Threndil (non-canon) - mmmm, new name, you say? Er, Nerethíl?
And then there's Val (non-canon) ~ ~ ~ Who owns which characters?
"I'm patient. I can wait." -Thranduil
No prob.
Yes, yes.
Mostly, Oooo, I like that! Gilda sounds nice.
U no like Tauriel? Yeppers.
Actually I think he is indeed canon, he's just not the canon Haldir that dies in the movie. He's named Haldir because its a popular name in Lothlorien I guess, perhaps he was named after the great general (the one that dies) Haldir?? XD
I really like that name.
Yea.
Those are all my characters (excepting Tauriel). You and Lolly are actually either supposed to come up with some of your own, or we can all get down to dolling out the canon (aragron, faramir, act) characters (which we will have to do anyway).
Excellent! XD
Cheers. Thank you.
I no liek Tauriel Coolio.
OK. XD We'll jus' call 'im "Not-Haldir" for now so I don't get confuzzled.
Thanks! It's just a suggestion, though. Oh, okay. I'm really bad at coming up with characters, but I'll try anywya. I thought Lollimon would've had characters though...
Well, the only possible way to write it is if we each get our own characters, lest we be so good at interchanging.
I'm really good either way, it just comes down to whether we're all comfortable letting other temporarally control our characters. It's probably safer (especially for a first time writing together) that we all stay on our own characters like you say.
Well, I'm not quite sure how it would work if we divided up characters, because they'll undoubtedly meet at some point............
Actually I think he is indeed canon, he's just not the canon Haldir that dies in the movie. He's named Haldir because its a popular name in Lothlorien I guess, perhaps he was named after the great general (the one that dies) Haldir?? XD
I really like that name.
Yea.
Those are all my characters (excepting Tauriel). You and Lolly are actually either supposed to come up with some of your own, or we can all get down to dolling out the canon (aragron, faramir, act) characters (which we will have to do anyway).
I don't think we should divide the canon characters, I think we should share them. So there wouldn't be much writing from their points of view but rather us writing of our character's interactions with them. Sound cool/make sense?
I'm really good either way, it just comes down to whether we're all comfortable letting other temporarally control our characters. It's probably safer (especially for a first time writing together) that we all stay on our own characters like you say.
Well, I'm not quite sure how it would work if we divided up characters, because they'll undoubtedly meet at some point............
Before the destruction of the the Ring, one of the Nine Nazgul achieved a degree of potentcy in sorcery. This was discovered by Sauron and the Nazgul proceeded to explain a backup plan should Sauron ever be destroyed, but the Dark Lord rejected this idea, of course wanting personal dominion of Middle-Earth. The Nazgul was set to be smashed, so carried out his plan of ridding himself of his ties to Sauron and making his immortal life force his own.
The destruction of the Ring soon followed, and this Nazgul escaped demise.
During the peaceful years that followed the Nazgul secretly built his magic and power with the remaining forces of Orcs, hiding away in the depths of Mordor’s underground mountain caves. When the time comes he strikes; not openly, but insidiously, sending the stealthiest Orc spies to gather information and poison food sources with a new, seemingly incurable ailment which first affects the elven population.
This then draws the attention of our elven heroes, who seek the council of their human allies to send aid. The disease perplexes our heroes, who then utilise their wit to discern the origin of the sickness and capture an Orc spy. They interrogate the Orc, to no avail, and then form a cunning plan to stage an escape for him to lead the heroes to the enemy headquarters. This unfolds as planned, and they then learn of the Nazgul’s plan to ride north to obtain the Spellbook of Aganduar, a powerful artifact which contains the spells the Nazgul needs to become more powerful than any spellcaster in Middle-Earth.
They then learn of the new threat to the world, (that being the New Dark Lord Nazgul dude,) and then go about gathering the finest warriors from each race forming our fellowship band of heroes. They ride out to stop him before he reaches Agandaur’s old haunt, to then find that a fair ways away from their homeland an elven messenger brings news that a mighty force of Orcs was sent to wipe out the Elves. The heroes debate whether to return and help the Elves, but decide that the Nazgul was the greater threat and send the messenger to get help from the Rohirrim at Rohan.
Our heroes catch up to the Nazgul, only to find him accompanied by a guard of his most powerful Orcs, with the higher level brutes being strengthened by dark spells. A fierce battle ensues and the heroes barely win, resulting in the Nazgul escaping with half his Orc force and some heroes badly wounded. They rest and recover, and then press on to reach the fortress only to find that they’re too late, and the Nazgul has accomplished his mission, leaving a dark spell snare which turns some of our heroes against their comrades.
(Yo Essa ) This is where the Blue Wizards come in and free the corrupted heroes of the dark spell, and then explain that they were there to find the Spellbook of Agandaur before the Nazgul, but were caught off guard and defeated.
After they rest and recover, one of the Wizards is contacted by King Elessar via Palantir, calling for help against Orc forces led by the Nazgul now assaulting Gondor. The weary heroes reluctantly agree, before their spirits are lifted by the Wizards telling of chance that they seek the aid of a dragon. They then travel to find one of the last dragons who demands that they perofrm a task to win his allegience, to which they do, and then ride the dragon back to their homeland in its most desperate hour to the climactic battle against the Nazgul and his army.
The new Dark Lord is now very poweful, and the Blue Wizards say that the only way to weaken him is to destroy the Spellbook; the source his new power.
Actually I think he is indeed canon, he's just not the canon Haldir that dies in the movie. He's named Haldir because its a popular name in Lothlorien I guess, perhaps he was named after the great general (the one that dies) Haldir?? XD
I really like that name.
Yea.
Those are all my characters (excepting Tauriel). You and Lolly are actually either supposed to come up with some of your own, or we can all get down to dolling out the canon (aragron, faramir, act) characters (which we will have to do anyway).
Excellent! XD
Cheers. Thank you.
I no liek Tauriel Coolio.
OK. XD We'll jus' call 'im "Not-Haldir" for now so I don't get confuzzled.
Thanks! It's just a suggestion, though. Oh, okay. I'm really bad at coming up with characters, but I'll try anywya. I thought Lollimon would've had characters though...
Np.
Aw, shame, heard she was in infinity wars btws.
Okay. XD
I'll reserve any kind judgement I may have till I've seen it. I doubt it's that bad tho. Me too…I'm a waiten.
Before the destruction of the the Ring, one of the Nine Nazgul achieved a degree of potentcy in sorcery. This was discovered by Sauron and the Nazgul proceeded to explain a backup plan should Sauron ever be destroyed, but the Dark Lord rejected this idea, of course wanting personal dominion of Middle-Earth. The Nazgul was set to be smashed, so carried out his plan of ridding himself of his ties to Sauron and making his immortal life force his own.
The destruction of the Ring soon followed, and this Nazgul escaped demise.
During the peaceful years that followed the Nazgul secretly built his magic and power with the remaining forces of Orcs, hiding away in the depths of Mordor’s underground mountain caves. When the time comes he strikes; not openly, but insidiously, sending the stealthiest Orc spies to gather information and poison food sources with a new, seemingly incurable ailment which first affects the elven population.
This then draws the attention of our elven heroes, who seek the council of their human allies to send aid. The disease perplexes our heroes, who then utilise their wit to discern the origin of the sickness and capture an Orc spy. They interrogate the Orc, to no avail, and then form a cunning plan to stage an escape for him to lead the heroes to the enemy headquarters. This unfolds as planned, and they then learn of the Nazgul’s plan to ride north to obtain the Spellbook of Aganduar, a powerful artifact which contains the spells the Nazgul needs to become more powerful than any spellcaster in Middle-Earth.
They then learn of the new threat to the world, (that being the New Dark Lord Nazgul dude,) and then go about gathering the finest warriors from each race forming our fellowship band of heroes. They ride out to stop him before he reaches Agandaur’s old haunt, to then find that a fair ways away from their homeland an elven messenger brings news that a mighty force of Orcs was sent to wipe out the Elves. The heroes debate whether to return and help the Elves, but decide that the Nazgul was the greater threat and send the messenger to get help from the Rohirrim at Rohan.
Our heroes catch up to the Nazgul, only to find him accompanied by a guard of his most powerful Orcs, with the higher level brutes being strengthened by dark spells. A fierce battle ensues and the heroes barely win, resulting in the Nazgul escaping with half his Orc force and some heroes badly wounded. They rest and recover, and then press on to reach the fortress only to find that they’re too late, and the Nazgul has accomplished his mission, leaving a dark spell snare which turns some of our heroes against their comrades.
(Yo Essa ) This is where the Blue Wizards come in and free the corrupted heroes of the dark spell, and then explain that they were there to find the Spellbook of Agandaur before the Nazgul, but were caught off guard and defeated.
After they rest and recover, one of the Wizards is contacted by King Elessar via Palantir, calling for help against Orc forces led by the Nazgul now assaulting Gondor. The weary heroes reluctantly agree, before their spirits are lifted by the Wizards telling of chance that they seek the aid of a dragon. They then travel to find one of the last dragons who demands that they perofrm a task to win his allegience, to which they do, and then ride the dragon back to their homeland in its most desperate hour to the climactic battle against the Nazgul and his army.
The new Dark Lord is now very poweful, and the Blue Wizards say that the only way to weaken him is to destroy the Spellbook; the source his new power.
And I think we can imagine how this goes.
Very cool! I like the potential of this allowing us to use some lesser explored areas and characters! And blue wizards yes!
Before the destruction of the the Ring, one of the Nine Nazgul achieved a degree of potentcy in sorcery. This was discovered by Sauron and the Nazgul proceeded to explain a backup plan should Sauron ever be destroyed, but the Dark Lord rejected this idea, of course wanting personal dominion of Middle-Earth. The Nazgul was set to be smashed, so carried out his plan of ridding himself of his ties to Sauron and making his immortal life force his own.
The destruction of the Ring soon followed, and this Nazgul escaped demise.
During the peaceful years that followed the Nazgul secretly built his magic and power with the remaining forces of Orcs, hiding away in the depths of Mordor’s underground mountain caves. When the time comes he strikes; not openly, but insidiously, sending the stealthiest Orc spies to gather information and poison food sources with a new, seemingly incurable ailment which first affects the elven population.
This then draws the attention of our elven heroes, who seek the council of their human allies to send aid. The disease perplexes our heroes, who then utilise their wit to discern the origin of the sickness and capture an Orc spy. They interrogate the Orc, to no avail, and then form a cunning plan to stage an escape for him to lead the heroes to the enemy headquarters. This unfolds as planned, and they then learn of the Nazgul’s plan to ride north to obtain the Spellbook of Aganduar, a powerful artifact which contains the spells the Nazgul needs to become more powerful than any spellcaster in Middle-Earth.
They then learn of the new threat to the world, (that being the New Dark Lord Nazgul dude,) and then go about gathering the finest warriors from each race forming our fellowship band of heroes. They ride out to stop him before he reaches Agandaur’s old haunt, to then find that a fair ways away from their homeland an elven messenger brings news that a mighty force of Orcs was sent to wipe out the Elves. The heroes debate whether to return and help the Elves, but decide that the Nazgul was the greater threat and send the messenger to get help from the Rohirrim at Rohan.
Our heroes catch up to the Nazgul, only to find him accompanied by a guard of his most powerful Orcs, with the higher level brutes being strengthened by dark spells. A fierce battle ensues and the heroes barely win, resulting in the Nazgul escaping with half his Orc force and some heroes badly wounded. They rest and recover, and then press on to reach the fortress only to find that they’re too late, and the Nazgul has accomplished his mission, leaving a dark spell snare which turns some of our heroes against their comrades.
(Yo Essa ) This is where the Blue Wizards come in and free the corrupted heroes of the dark spell, and then explain that they were there to find the Spellbook of Agandaur before the Nazgul, but were caught off guard and defeated.
After they rest and recover, one of the Wizards is contacted by King Elessar via Palantir, calling for help against Orc forces led by the Nazgul now assaulting Gondor. The weary heroes reluctantly agree, before their spirits are lifted by the Wizards telling of chance that they seek the aid of a dragon. They then travel to find one of the last dragons who demands that they perofrm a task to win his allegience, to which they do, and then ride the dragon back to their homeland in its most desperate hour to the climactic battle against the Nazgul and his army.
The new Dark Lord is now very poweful, and the Blue Wizards say that the only way to weaken him is to destroy the Spellbook; the source his new power.
And I think we can imagine how this goes.
Summary: We need to change one character, followed by some possible ideas for the plot.
I love the idea, but canonically elves can't get sick. So it will have to be some pretty potent magic that is able to emulate sickness in beings who otherwise can't get sick. This shouldn't be hard for a freed nazgul. Which brings me to my second little point here, the Nazgul weren't capable of disobeying Sauron and were destroyed when their life support system (sauron) went kaput. But there's nothing saying that another one of Melkor's loyal servants (As Sauron was recorded as being most rather than last loyal to his master's memory.) Awakens at the fall of Sauron and it takes them up till now in the fourth age to gather the disabiguated orcish armies
The blue wizards are trickey, in one of his letters Tolkien supposed that they had founded the magic-cult religions of the easterlings. The question is why are they fighting for good now? At first I read them being a cheap plot device, but what if one of them was corrupted in such a way that he convinced the other that the book had to be in "good hands" soon based on disturbing dreams about this new threat to middle earth they had both had? Harmless right? Wrong. His real intentions are to get the book for personal gain. If he had the book then he'd be super powerful, disarming even the other maiar wouldn't be a problem. But then something stops him and he realizes how evil his plan was and is ashamed of himself or something. It would make for a great side plot to distract the readers into thinking that he is the ancient evil thingamy.
CONt.
"Wise words by wise men write wise deeds in wise pen." —Lollimon the Wise
By the fourth age, as I have stated previously, the elves are few in number and far between. So I'm thinking we focus on the elves of the mirkwood area, the ones who I assume were previously poisoned by the dark magic. What if the sickness makes them sick to begin with, but then it also causes them to age normally? I'm thinking that one of the heroes is held hostage by the dark Lord/Lady and Elessar doesn't contact them but part of their party, lead by one of the wizards, gives hunt to the darkness and that is what leads them to the great battle. But while so doing their counter parts, lead by the wizard who is trying to redeem his name after the book escapade, Are going in another direction entirely seeking the help of a dragon, possibly an easterdragon? Because in the east dragons are revered rather than feared.
What if, as a gift to the bravest of our little troupe fellowship, the easterdragon lets them keep a tooth from the skeleton of the venemous wurm they had to work as a team to defeat in order to gain the dragon't fealty? The venom having no cure and being the most lethal substance known to man. Then, in a final attempt to destroy the otherwise indestructable book, said bravest little fellow drives the tooth into it.
"Wise words by wise men write wise deeds in wise pen." —Lollimon the Wise
Before the destruction of the the Ring, one of the Nine Nazgul achieved a degree of potentcy in sorcery. This was discovered by Sauron and the Nazgul proceeded to explain a backup plan should Sauron ever be destroyed, but the Dark Lord rejected this idea, of course wanting personal dominion of Middle-Earth. The Nazgul was set to be smashed, so carried out his plan of ridding himself of his ties to Sauron and making his immortal life force his own.
The destruction of the Ring soon followed, and this Nazgul escaped demise.
During the peaceful years that followed the Nazgul secretly built his magic and power with the remaining forces of Orcs, hiding away in the depths of Mordor’s underground mountain caves. When the time comes he strikes; not openly, but insidiously, sending the stealthiest Orc spies to gather information and poison food sources with a new, seemingly incurable ailment which first affects the elven population.
This then draws the attention of our elven heroes, who seek the council of their human allies to send aid. The disease perplexes our heroes, who then utilise their wit to discern the origin of the sickness and capture an Orc spy. They interrogate the Orc, to no avail, and then form a cunning plan to stage an escape for him to lead the heroes to the enemy headquarters. This unfolds as planned, and they then learn of the Nazgul’s plan to ride north to obtain the Spellbook of Aganduar, a powerful artifact which contains the spells the Nazgul needs to become more powerful than any spellcaster in Middle-Earth.
They then learn of the new threat to the world, (that being the New Dark Lord Nazgul dude,) and then go about gathering the finest warriors from each race forming our fellowship band of heroes. They ride out to stop him before he reaches Agandaur’s old haunt, to then find that a fair ways away from their homeland an elven messenger brings news that a mighty force of Orcs was sent to wipe out the Elves. The heroes debate whether to return and help the Elves, but decide that the Nazgul was the greater threat and send the messenger to get help from the Rohirrim at Rohan.
Our heroes catch up to the Nazgul, only to find him accompanied by a guard of his most powerful Orcs, with the higher level brutes being strengthened by dark spells. A fierce battle ensues and the heroes barely win, resulting in the Nazgul escaping with half his Orc force and some heroes badly wounded. They rest and recover, and then press on to reach the fortress only to find that they’re too late, and the Nazgul has accomplished his mission, leaving a dark spell snare which turns some of our heroes against their comrades.
(Yo Essa ) This is where the Blue Wizards come in and free the corrupted heroes of the dark spell, and then explain that they were there to find the Spellbook of Agandaur before the Nazgul, but were caught off guard and defeated.
After they rest and recover, one of the Wizards is contacted by King Elessar via Palantir, calling for help against Orc forces led by the Nazgul now assaulting Gondor. The weary heroes reluctantly agree, before their spirits are lifted by the Wizards telling of chance that they seek the aid of a dragon. They then travel to find one of the last dragons who demands that they perofrm a task to win his allegience, to which they do, and then ride the dragon back to their homeland in its most desperate hour to the climactic battle against the Nazgul and his army.
The new Dark Lord is now very poweful, and the Blue Wizards say that the only way to weaken him is to destroy the Spellbook; the source his new power.
And I think we can imagine how this goes.
Summary: We need to change one character, followed by some possible ideas for the plot.
I love the idea, but canonically elves can't get sick. So it will have to be some pretty potent magic that is able to emulate sickness in beings who otherwise can't get sick. This shouldn't be hard for a freed nazgul. Which brings me to my second little point here, the Nazgul weren't capable of disobeying Sauron and were destroyed when their life support system (sauron) went kaput. But there's nothing saying that another one of Melkor's loyal servants (As Sauron was recorded as being most rather than last loyal to his master's memory.) Awakens at the fall of Sauron and it takes them up till now in the fourth age to gather the disabiguated orcish armies
The blue wizards are trickey, in one of his letters Tolkien supposed that they had founded the magic-cult religions of the easterlings. The question is why are they fighting for good now? At first I read them being a cheap plot device, but what if one of them was corrupted in such a way that he convinced the other that the book had to be in "good hands" soon based on disturbing dreams about this new threat to middle earth they had both had? Harmless right? Wrong. His real intentions are to get the book for personal gain. If he had the book then he'd be super powerful, disarming even the other maiar wouldn't be a problem. But then something stops him and he realizes how evil his plan was and is ashamed of himself or something. It would make for a great side plot to distract the readers into thinking that he is the ancient evil thingamy.
CONt.
Cool, good point. magic is always an answer. I agree, an after Sauron Sauron is totally viable to keep the plot line. Aren't the blue wizards twins? Or related? Correct me if I have that wrong but what if while used the idea you have for the blue wizards, we could turn the sibling against one another? Thoughts, CONjectures? Side plots are good.