And in 1789 in France you could get beheaded for saying anything against the revolutionary government, Actually, you didn't have to say anything, you could just be accused, and then told you had to prove your own innocence. That's how a lot of people got murdered. So, they really didn't have free speech.
That is true, but that's why the French Revolution happened.
So, here's an interesting topic: the French Revolution.
Or, more specifically, how while people talk a lot about the French Revolution, and while it was undoubtedly very influential, it failed. By definition, it failed. It led to a reign of terror, and and then 10 years
later Napoleon declared himself Emperor, and then France had another Monarchy, which grew more Constitutional over the course of several revolutions, until the second Republic was established, for a few
years until Napoleon the III established the Empire, until finally in 1870 they established a Republic again and finally stuck with it. Until WWII, and Vichy France, and then the fourth and fifth republics since
then, though you can't blame France for the Germans overthrowing their government.
In the time period that the Unit ed States has had one government, France has had.......eleven. And that's not counting Napoleon coming back for Waterloo.
So, what do other people think?
Wow. I feel bad for French people who have to get through all that in history class. And their country is waaaaay older than ours too.
That would count as treason, which is unconstitutional.
Oh, yeah, there is that.... Darn it.
Well, you need two witnesses or an open confession to be convicted of treason, according to the Constitution, so just avoid having anyone see you. :tounge:
So, here's an interesting topic: the French Revolution.
Or, more specifically, how while people talk a lot about the French Revolution, and while it was undoubtedly very influential, it failed. By definition, it failed. It led to a reign of terror, and and then 10 years
later Napoleon declared himself Emperor, and then France had another Monarchy, which grew more Constitutional over the course of several revolutions, until the second Republic was established, for a few
years until Napoleon the III established the Empire, until finally in 1870 they established a Republic again and finally stuck with it. Until WWII, and Vichy France, and then the fourth and fifth republics since
then, though you can't blame France for the Germans overthrowing their government.
In the time period that the Unit ed States has had one government, France has had.......eleven. And that's not counting Napoleon coming back for Waterloo.
So, what do other people think?
Wow. I feel bad for French people who have to get through all that in history class. And their country is waaaaay older than ours too.
Good point. This isn't even touching on the previous 900/1000 or so years. :tounge:
Isn't that the party whose candidate didn't know what Aleppo is?
I don't know. I didn't know what Aleppo was until I looked it up just now.
Before anyone pounces on him, the media abandons stories after two days anyway, so we can't blame him. Heck, I totally forgot about Flint, Michigan until I saw something about it on Reddit a few weeks ago.
I can tell you're not going to listen to what I say, can I prove something is evil? who can prove wrong? I'm not really interested in pursuing this, I knew you were all your typical mainstream media and more or less like Republicans, Both parties are horrible. Plus I just don't have the time to deal with all these posts, must say I'm shocked with you, you lost a relative to America but blame it on one man but if Not Truman someone else would be responsible. You instead praise America, I like living here but i'm not Patriotic, The Bible tell us not to be, I view countries as all Evil, Maybe America WAS better than the Soviets, a lesser of 2 evils. Now I know you'll say I'm giving in and laugh at me but so goes everything, heroes of the moment, Truth is I'm not interested in discussing this anymore and I really don't care about Other's views of me.
I never told you to prove it was evil. You're totally ignoring how unrestricted your free speech is compared to the rest of the world. It's high time we acknowledged that neither of us will probably agree with anything the other says. You believe the world is invariably evil, and I believe that there is some good in the world because God did say that he is everywhere on this Earth and always with us.
Yeah, I lost relatives to America. Japanese and Confederate. I'll squarely lay the blame for one death on Truman because he personally ordered that bomb be dropped on that location, but that's the only person I'd hold responsible. Everyone else did what they were told. I'll praise America for what they did right and I'll sorely criticize America for what they did wrong, because you can't throw a blanket statement on things.
The Bible Tells us there is good but nowhere does it say in power.
I can tell you're not going to listen to what I say, can I prove something is evil? who can prove wrong? I'm not really interested in pursuing this, I knew you were all your typical mainstream media and more or less like Republicans, Both parties are horrible. Plus I just don't have the time to deal with all these posts, must say I'm shocked with you, you lost a relative to America but blame it on one man but if Not Truman someone else would be responsible. You instead praise America, I like living here but i'm not Patriotic, The Bible tell us not to be, I view countries as all Evil, Maybe America WAS better than the Soviets, a lesser of 2 evils. Now I know you'll say I'm giving in and laugh at me but so goes everything, heroes of the moment, Truth is I'm not interested in discussing this anymore and I really don't care about Other's views of me.
I don't mean to be provocative and continue an argument, but I'm just curious about why you say the Bible says not to be patriotic.
I am glad you asked, we are to render to Caesar (The Government) what is Caesars and to God what is God's, What's Patriotic, Having a Flag, Saying the Pledge of Allegiance, serving in the Army etc. Well that's showing Allegiance to Caesar, are only only Allegiance is with God, we pay taxes and hope we don't have trouble, We know that this world is Flawed and there will be a better place one day, but the World is a fallen and corrupt place, ruled by the Devil, all governments are tools of God, so yes The Soviets are tools of God, and those who fight against them fight against God, does that mean their Good, of course not.
So, here's an interesting topic: the French Revolution.
Or, more specifically, how while people talk a lot about the French Revolution, and while it was undoubtedly very influential, it failed. By definition, it failed. It led to a reign of terror, and and then 10 years
later Napoleon declared himself Emperor, and then France had another Monarchy, which grew more Constitutional over the course of several revolutions, until the second Republic was established, for a few
years until Napoleon the III established the Empire, until finally in 1870 they established a Republic again and finally stuck with it. Until WWII, and Vichy France, and then the fourth and fifth republics since
then, though you can't blame France for the Germans overthrowing their government.
In the time period that the Unit ed States has had one government, France has had.......eleven. And that's not counting Napoleon coming back for Waterloo.
So, what do other people think?
Wow. I feel bad for French people who have to get through all that in history class. And their country is waaaaay older than ours too.
Wow, my Favorite Part of History, lets talk abotu NApoleon
Thanks. *Moves head closer to the screen* Wait a sec, how did you get different tongue smileys?
I just finished reading about Woodrow Wilson and World War I and now I'm doing a test for it. That's very kind of you to offer assistance, but I'm pretty sure my school will bleach all of my clothes until they're thoroughly pink if I receive any kind of unauthorized help while doing tests.
They're right there in the emotes selection bar, you just have to look farther down towards the bottom. :tounge:
That's a rather peculiar punishment. :tounge:
Oh okay. Thanks. At first it seemed they were some sort of privilege you attained. :tounge:
I don't mean to be provocative and continue an argument, but I'm just curious about why you say the Bible says not to be patriotic.
I am glad you asked, we are to render to Caesar (The Government) what is Caesars and to God what is God's, What's Patriotic, Having a Flag, Saying the Pledge of Allegiance, serving in the Army etc. Well that's showing Allegiance to Caesar, are only only Allegiance is with God, we pay taxes and hope we don't have trouble, We know that this world is Flawed and there will be a better place one day, but the World is a fallen and corrupt place, ruled by the Devil, all governments are tools of God, so yes The Soviets are tools of God, and those who fight against them fight against God, does that mean their Good, of course not.
Although, I suppose that could mean that ifyou feel respect is due to your country, you should give them that. It's definitely confusing, depending on how you look at it, as are a lot of the things Jesus said.
I don't mean to be provocative and continue an argument, but I'm just curious about why you say the Bible says not to be patriotic.
I am glad you asked, we are to render to Caesar (The Government) what is Caesars and to God what is God's, What's Patriotic, Having a Flag, Saying the Pledge of Allegiance, serving in the Army etc. Well that's showing Allegiance to Caesar, are only only Allegiance is with God, we pay taxes and hope we don't have trouble, We know that this world is Flawed and there will be a better place one day, but the World is a fallen and corrupt place, ruled by the Devil, all governments are tools of God, so yes The Soviets are tools of God, and those who fight against them fight against God, does that mean their Good, of course not.
Wait a sec, how are you showing allegiance to the government and denying your allegiance to God by loving and doing the best you can for your country? How do acts of love for your country entirely revoke your allegiance to God?
I respect your opinions, but you appear to be treating this country as if it were intrinsically evil when it is not.
I never told you to prove it was evil. You're totally ignoring how unrestricted your free speech is compared to the rest of the world. It's high time we acknowledged that neither of us will probably agree with anything the other says. You believe the world is invariably evil, and I believe that there is some good in the world because God did say that he is everywhere on this Earth and always with us.
Yeah, I lost relatives to America. Japanese and Confederate. I'll squarely lay the blame for one death on Truman because he personally ordered that bomb be dropped on that location, but that's the only person I'd hold responsible. Everyone else did what they were told. I'll praise America for what they did right and I'll sorely criticize America for what they did wrong, because you can't throw a blanket statement on things.
The Bible Tells us there is good but nowhere does it say in power.
And the Bible tells us there were two of each animal on the Ark but nowhere does it specify what the dolphins and fish did, which is most likely "thrive on a flooded Earth."
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I am glad you asked, we are to render to Caesar (The Government) what is Caesars and to God what is God's, What's Patriotic, Having a Flag, Saying the Pledge of Allegiance, serving in the Army etc. Well that's showing Allegiance to Caesar, are only only Allegiance is with God, we pay taxes and hope we don't have trouble, We know that this world is Flawed and there will be a better place one day, but the World is a fallen and corrupt place, ruled by the Devil, all governments are tools of God, so yes The Soviets are tools of God, and those who fight against them fight against God, does that mean their Good, of course not.
Wait a sec, how are you showing allegiance to the government and denying your allegiance to God by loving and doing the best you can for your country? How do acts of love for your country entirely revoke your allegiance to God?
I respect your opinions, but you appear to be treating this country as if it were intrinsically evil when it is not.
Exactly: I love my family, I am loyal to my family, I would fight and die for my family. The same goes for this country, and the same goes for God. I have not betrayed my allegiance to any of them by giving allegiance to the other. Should this government turn on my God or my family, I will quit my allegiance to such a government, as I would if my family turned on God.
I can have allegiance, respect, and love for all three but prioritize them so that one comes before all.
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