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Post by Emarcee on Apr 4, 2017 3:31:02 GMT
It should be noted that the only Light Makuta ever seen in canon came from an alternate universe and wore the Mask of Shadows just to insult evil by wearing its very symbol and refusing to be tempted by it. So you would prefer that there are no light Makuta here? I would be inclined to say it takes EXTREME circumstances for even a single av-Makuta to exist. So no -- not right off the bat. Also take into account that Av-Makuta have an entire set of 42 powers different from those of regular Makuta, and we don't know what that list is. As it stands we only know 3 of them, and can only theorize 4 more.
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Post by LegoBuilder on Apr 4, 2017 16:39:45 GMT
*Falls from the sky in a canister* So, this is mataverse bionicle, LoSK time period, yes? Yes. The LoSK has been defeated by Emarcee, ultra, and myself in a very one-sided battle in which the Barraki warlords were thoroughly and utterly destroyed.
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Post by Emarcee on Apr 4, 2017 17:49:02 GMT
*Falls from the sky in a canister* So, this is mataverse bionicle, LoSK time period, yes? Yes. The LoSK has been defeated by Emarcee , ultra , and myself in a very one-sided battle in which the Barraki warlords were thoroughly and utterly destroyed. Kratark took a member of Mantax's species' skull and is now wearing it like a gauntlet
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Post by Rocketracer7235 on Apr 4, 2017 17:51:57 GMT
*Falls from the sky in a canister* So, this is mataverse bionicle, LoSK time period, yes? Yes. The LoSK has been defeated by Emarcee , ultra , and myself in a very one-sided battle in which the Barraki warlords were thoroughly and utterly destroyed. Alright...
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Post by yjflordofbio123 on Apr 4, 2017 21:34:08 GMT
So you would prefer that there are no light Makuta here? I would be inclined to say it takes EXTREME circumstances for even a single av-Makuta to exist. So no -- not right off the bat. Also take into account that Av-Makuta have an entire set of 42 powers different from those of regular Makuta, and we don't know what that list is. As it stands we only know 3 of them, and can only theorize 4 more. Actually, no. Only certain powers were replaced. Things like Fear, were replaced with their principle counterparts, naturally. Things like Molecular Disruption, I'd think, would be removed.
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Post by Emarcee on Apr 4, 2017 22:47:22 GMT
I would be inclined to say it takes EXTREME circumstances for even a single av-Makuta to exist. So no -- not right off the bat. Also take into account that Av-Makuta have an entire set of 42 powers different from those of regular Makuta, and we don't know what that list is. As it stands we only know 3 of them, and can only theorize 4 more. Actually, no. Only certain powers were replaced. Things like Fear, were replaced with their principle counterparts, naturally. Things like Molecular Disruption, I'd think, would be removed. We do not know enough about av-Makuta to know that. We shall not attempt one -- in fact, when Kratark finally sees the light, I'm going to have him immediately be blown up. This will lead smoothly into Emarcee creating Kratark 2.0, or, as I like to call him, Kratark Vgives-a-karz.
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Post by yjflordofbio123 on Apr 4, 2017 22:51:23 GMT
Actually, no. Only certain powers were replaced. Things like Fear, were replaced with their principle counterparts, naturally. Things like Molecular Disruption, I'd think, would be removed. We do not know enough about av-Makuta to know that. We shall not attempt one -- in fact, when Kratark finally sees the light, I'm going to have him immediately be blown up. This will lead smoothly into Emarcee creating Kratark 2.0, or, as I like to call him, Kratark Vgives-a-karz. I'm pretty sure Greg confirmed it, and Biosector01 says The Makuta of the Melding Alternate Universe have a different set of Kraata powers than those of the core dimension. Their powers do not include Darkness, but do include Telekinesis. In place of Fear and Anger, they possess the powers of Courage and Peace.[1] Fear was the antithesis of the virtue, Courage. Same goes for Anger and Peace. It stands to reason that applies for the others. They did not have Darkness, and did have Telekinesis. It would hardly be a strenuous process to make a list, which even I could compile quickly. In fact, while I have no plans for any Avkuta for a while, I do intend to have a Makuta begin the process by December.
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Post by Keplers on Apr 4, 2017 23:07:14 GMT
We do not know enough about av-Makuta to know that. We shall not attempt one -- in fact, when Kratark finally sees the light, I'm going to have him immediately be blown up. This will lead smoothly into Emarcee creating Kratark 2.0, or, as I like to call him, Kratark Vgives-a-karz. I'm pretty sure Greg confirmed it, and Biosector01 says The Makuta of the Melding Alternate Universe have a different set of Kraata powers than those of the core dimension. Their powers do not include Darkness, but do include Telekinesis. In place of Fear and Anger, they possess the powers of Courage and Peace.[1] Fear was the antithesis of the virtue, Courage. Same goes for Anger and Peace. It stands to reason that applies for the others. They did not have Darkness, and did have Telekinesis. It would hardly be a strenuous process to make a list, which even I could compile quickly. In fact, while I have no plans for any Avkuta for a while, I do intend to have a Makuta begin the process by December. I don't know why BioSector doesn't mention it, but Greg did confirm the whole opposite-virtues powers.
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Post by yjflordofbio123 on Apr 4, 2017 23:36:52 GMT
I'm pretty sure Greg confirmed it, and Biosector01 says The Makuta of the Melding Alternate Universe have a different set of Kraata powers than those of the core dimension. Their powers do not include Darkness, but do include Telekinesis. In place of Fear and Anger, they possess the powers of Courage and Peace.[1] Fear was the antithesis of the virtue, Courage. Same goes for Anger and Peace. It stands to reason that applies for the others. They did not have Darkness, and did have Telekinesis. It would hardly be a strenuous process to make a list, which even I could compile quickly. In fact, while I have no plans for any Avkuta for a while, I do intend to have a Makuta begin the process by December. I don't know why BioSector doesn't mention it, but Greg did confirm the whole opposite-virtues powers. Yeet.
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Post by Emarcee on Apr 5, 2017 0:04:24 GMT
I'm pretty sure Greg confirmed it, and Biosector01 says The Makuta of the Melding Alternate Universe have a different set of Kraata powers than those of the core dimension. Their powers do not include Darkness, but do include Telekinesis. In place of Fear and Anger, they possess the powers of Courage and Peace.[1] Fear was the antithesis of the virtue, Courage. Same goes for Anger and Peace. It stands to reason that applies for the others. They did not have Darkness, and did have Telekinesis. It would hardly be a strenuous process to make a list, which even I could compile quickly. In fact, while I have no plans for any Avkuta for a while, I do intend to have a Makuta begin the process by December. I don't know why BioSector doesn't mention it, but Greg did confirm the whole opposite-virtues powers. That's theoretically only 7 out of 42 powers. And with telekinesis thrown into the mix, we can't assume that all the powers are just opposites. I mean, by that logic, silence would become loudness, but how would that work?
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Post by Keplers on Apr 5, 2017 5:48:20 GMT
I don't know why BioSector doesn't mention it, but Greg did confirm the whole opposite-virtues powers. That's theoretically only 7 out of 42 powers. And with telekinesis thrown into the mix, we can't assume that all the powers are just opposites. I mean, by that logic, silence would become loudness, but how would that work? I agree. Others, like Rahi Control, are very necessary for a Makuta's job. I wouldn't recommend an overhaul on powers at all, and this is why Av-Makuta are a mess.
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Post by Rocketracer7235 on Apr 5, 2017 12:49:46 GMT
That's theoretically only 7 out of 42 powers. And with telekinesis thrown into the mix, we can't assume that all the powers are just opposites. I mean, by that logic, silence would become loudness, but how would that work? I agree. Others, like Rahi Control, are very necessary for a Makuta's job. I wouldn't recommend an overhaul on powers at all, and this is why Av-Makuta are a mess. This is why I ran through the makuta powers and looked trhough which ones would likely have to be swapped and which would remain and made a lovely list of logical avata powers but meh
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Post by Emarcee on Apr 5, 2017 18:10:20 GMT
I agree. Others, like Rahi Control, are very necessary for a Makuta's job. I wouldn't recommend an overhaul on powers at all, and this is why Av-Makuta are a mess. This is why I ran through the makuta powers and looked trhough which ones would likely have to be swapped and which would remain and made a lovely list of logical avata powers but meh They really are a mess. Even theorizing some of the powers is just a guessing game at that point. Because, seriously, what does telekinesis replace?! ._.
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Post by Rocka99 on Apr 5, 2017 20:34:36 GMT
This is why I ran through the makuta powers and looked trhough which ones would likely have to be swapped and which would remain and made a lovely list of logical avata powers but meh They really are a mess. Even theorizing some of the powers is just a guessing game at that point. Because, seriously, what does telekinesis replace?! ._. This is an RP, after all. If we can agree on a list of Av-Makuta powers, it might be the right type of fanon to have.
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Post by ultra on Apr 5, 2017 23:23:35 GMT
They really are a mess. Even theorizing some of the powers is just a guessing game at that point. Because, seriously, what does telekinesis replace?! ._. This is an RP, after all. If we can agree on a list of Av-Makuta powers, it might be the right type of fanon to have. A list of Av-Makuta powers and and therefore the ability to create Av-Makuta would make my plan for Landix go a lot smoother
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