Its not a question of right or wrong, its opiion, Just because it isn't written nicely and white paper doesn't mean its not true.
You're allowed to say whatever you want, with the exception of threatening to assassinate people. The United States law says this and it is enforced and upheld by our courts. Plenty of people openly state they want to radically change America or call for violent overthrow, and very few if any of them have been jailed. You still have not brought anything objective to the table.
Its Opinion, read the Patriot act and notice how much freedom you have,
Because FDR was a hardline socialist who tried to illegally seize industries with quiet executive orders and put an entire race of US citizens in camps because of their ethnicity.
Truman was a hardline anti-communist who advocated actions against them that I don't even think were rational.
Truman didn't like the red scare though, also FDR and LBJ both have some very good and very bad things about them, without FDR's policies thigs might have been far worse, no Social Security without, something Trump wants to scrap.
Many retirees are actually losing their life savings because Social Security doesn't work. All it is good for nowadays is tracking every American citizen with an ID number.
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You're allowed to say whatever you want, with the exception of threatening to assassinate people. The United States law says this and it is enforced and upheld by our courts. Plenty of people openly state they want to radically change America or call for violent overthrow, and very few if any of them have been jailed. You still have not brought anything objective to the table.
Its Opinion, read the Patriot act and notice how much freedom you have,
I do believe that the Patriot Act is unconstitutional, but it so far hasn't been invoked on citizens without probably cause.
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I am too, and while I recognize there is evil and sin in the world, that doesn't make everything inherently evil.
My view of Government is that they all are bad, none are right on everything and all are non christian, and if its not Christian its of the Devil, I'm not saying fight it, were told to not do so.
That's your opinion of governments and morality, you are entitled to it, and you are entitled to disagree with it just as much as I disagree with you. It's wonderful that we live in a country where we are entitled to argue and don't have to recite the same propaganda.
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Merriam-Webster Dictionary: "a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections."
By this definition, yes, America is a democracy. Its specific form is that of a republic.
Technically, Yes, realistically not really anymore.
Realistically it is, too. There are shadowy portions I want removed but they do not control our government.
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...Explain your first sentence? I don't understand it.
I didn't mean the War was over Oil, it was a breaking point, sorry I did phrase that badly.
A breaking point for us? We needed the oil? I still don't follow. How does oil tie into our involvement in WWII?
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So am I, and I see no reason to conclude that every nation is evil. Many Nations have obviously done much that is very good. Such as the USA.
America has been as good a bastion of freedom and democracy as has ever existed in this world. As far as personal freedoms go it is most likely the best country, or at very least one of the best, in the entire world.
No, America's record is not perfect. Their are stains, and black marks, as in the history of all nations, but also great records of courage, and freedom, and compassion, and mercy, and heroism.
and didn't many say Rome was a great Christian Empire?
I never said America was a Great Christian Empire. I never even said it was Christian. I said it wasn't entirely evil, or even mainly evil, but that the good in general, I think, still outways the bad.*
America was based on, if not Christian, then certainly at least Deist Principles. As in the Declaration of Independence "..all men are created equal,..."(Emphasis added.) Obviously people can't be created without a creator.
And most people in America have been at least nominally Christian, until recent times, and Christianity has extremely heavily influenced the Country. However, I do not think America is a Christian nation in a full, true sense, certainly not any more. Many people were simply Nominally Christian, including many or most of this country's Presidents and politicians.
However, it is, as previously stated, a country that has had many Christian,s and has been heavily influenced by Christianity, which has guided the behavior of even many non-Christians, which is one reason why, as previously stated, America has done very much that is good.
That depends on what you mean by Rome. And everything people say must be weighed against the truth.
*In a temporal sense, not an eternal or spiritual one.
I am too, and while I recognize there is evil and sin in the world, that doesn't make everything inherently evil.
My view of Government is that they all are bad, none are right on everything and all are non christian, and if its not Christian its of the Devil, I'm not saying fight it, were told to not do so.
What about Cyrus then? While there is no indication that he was saved, he is referred to in Isaiah as the Lord's anointed? Even secular nations can be used for great good.
I didn't mean the War was over Oil, it was a breaking point, sorry I did phrase that badly.
A breaking point for us? We needed the oil? I still don't follow. How does oil tie into our involvement in WWII?
Well, since we embargoed the Japanese to try to get them to stop trying to destroy China, and they got mad, and attacked us.* I suppose oil was involved, but I'm pretty sure that we're the good guys there, I fail to see how we can be blamed for it. Causality and Responsibility are not the same thing.
*Simplified story. I'm too lazy right now to be more detailed.
If you live with such a cynical view, I really see no point in even attempting to convince you of anything.
Well I'm a christian so my view of the world is seen much different.
I am also a Christian, and I agree that all people (and by extension, nations) are inherently evil, but there still are good people that do good things and to try make this world a better place. The U.S.A. has certainly done a better job of that than the Soviets did, and to say that the U.S. is as bad as the U.S.S.R. was just isn't true. I'm not saying there aren't bad people making bad decisions in the government, there always have been and always will be, but our government is definitely better than some.
Yeah, but in the Confederate States he didn't have the power to free them, it's not like the South was listening to him at the time.
True, so it didn't really "do" anything at the time, but it was him saying that once the South re-joined with the North, then slavery would be illegal.
Not really, if you read the document, you see that Lincoln actually purposely excluded the counties that were under Union control.
From my understanding, what the Emancipation Proclamation did was it freed all of the slaves in the Confederate States, but not in the states that had slavery but didn't secede.
Exactly, Lincoln was interested i the Union not Freedom of Slaves.
Caring about one was good, but not caring about the other was very bad.
Look around you, don't tell me America is a democrary.
Merriam-Webster Dictionary: "a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections."
By this definition, yes, America is a democracy. Its specific form is that of a republic.
Soooo.... it's a democracy, but not a "true" democracy? That terminology doesn't make much sense...
It's not. It's a Federal Presidential Constitutional Republic.
That is based on democratic principles. And if you don't use democracy in the sense of pure democracy but simply use the literal defintion "People Rule", Then
Yes, America is a Democracy.
We lost it pretty fats, not to mention the Patriot Act
The Patriot Act does give the government some unconstitutional power, I agree, but originally for a good reason. It's hard to call it fully bad or fully good, and is EXTREMELY controversial. I can't really decide how I feel about it....
