I'm actually interested in joining you guys here. I've started reading up on history so I could have a better understanding of it. Right now I'm reading The People's History of the United States by Howard Zinn, and it's really good. It provides a look at history using records of how people who were conquered or marginalized throughout history were treated, and how people dismiss their mistreatment, saying it's acceptable because otherwise the world wouldn't be where it is now. Which is funny because the people dismissing it are exactly the reason the world is where it's at now.
I think reading about history is important, to be educated. Anyone who dismisses any parts of it or the social challenges that came with it, or doesn't read about it to the fullest extent to which they can, they're missing out, and it's a shame. So hopefully we can inform each other about stuff. I'm definitely looking for book recommendations, if anyone's got them. Right now, I'm looking for something on the Vikings.
I agree with the fact that, without the mistreatment of people like that, the world wouldn't be the way it is.
I find the Second World War to be quite interesting, as well as the Punic Wars.
The Punic Wars in particular make me think: what would have happened if Hannibal won, as he almost did?
Concerning the Second World War, I often wonder why Hitler invaded Russia. It is especially interesting that he did not retreat after he discovered that the winter would and was destroying his army.
Not to mention the fact that invading Russia was a direct violation of the German-Soviet Non-Aggression Pact, which made one more enemy for Hitler when Britain had been the only one not CONquered. If I'd been Hitler, I would've at least waited till I'd beaten Britain before invading Russia and making another enemy.
If I were Hitler, I wouldn't have been evil in the first place.
I find the Second World War to be quite interesting, as well as the Punic Wars.
The Punic Wars in particular make me think: what would have happened if Hannibal won, as he almost did?
Concerning the Second World War, I often wonder why Hitler invaded Russia. It is especially interesting that he did not retreat after he discovered that the winter would and was destroying his army.
Well no one can stop russia, Napoleon, the swedes, hitler was stupid for trying. Actually Hannibal cam very close to winning, if he had got the reinforcements he needed it would have been over quickly, going back to Africa was his demise.
I feel like it would be possible to overtake Russia, if done right. I just think that, instead of an invasion, if they had done a coup d'etat, they would've succeeded.
Well no one can stop russia, Napoleon, the swedes, hitler was stupid for trying. Actually Hannibal cam very close to winning, if he had got the reinforcements he needed it would have been over quickly, going back to Africa was his demise.
I feel like it would be possible to overtake Russia, if done right. I just think that, instead of an invasion, if they had done a coup d'etat, they would've succeeded.
darn you all wilhelm ii did it and won
By the grace my God has invested into me, I shall lead and follow onto glory.
I feel like it would be possible to overtake Russia, if done right. I just think that, instead of an invasion, if they had done a coup d'etat, they would've succeeded.
Not to mention the fact that invading Russia was a direct violation of the German-Soviet Non-Aggression Pact, which made one more enemy for Hitler when Britain had been the only one not CONquered. If I'd been Hitler, I would've at least waited till I'd beaten Britain before invading Russia and making another enemy.
If I were Hitler, I wouldn't have been evil in the first place.
Good point. I meant if I'd been Hitler and I was evil. There, that better?
I'm actually interested in joining you guys here. I've started reading up on history so I could have a better understanding of it. Right now I'm reading The People's History of the United States by Howard Zinn, and it's really good. It provides a look at history using records of how people who were conquered or marginalized throughout history were treated, and how people dismiss their mistreatment, saying it's acceptable because otherwise the world wouldn't be where it is now. Which is funny because the people dismissing it are exactly the reason the world is where it's at now.
I think reading about history is important, to be educated. Anyone who dismisses any parts of it or the social challenges that came with it, or doesn't read about it to the fullest extent to which they can, they're missing out, and it's a shame. So hopefully we can inform each other about stuff. I'm definitely looking for book recommendations, if anyone's got them. Right now, I'm looking for something on the Vikings.
I agree with the fact that, without the mistreatment of people like that, the world wouldn't be the way it is.
Sure, but that doesn't make their mistreatment acceptable. Especially now, when acknowledging the marginalization and bigotry that is going on now and has been going on throughout history is so important. We need to acknowledge social issues, past and present, and work to fix them. But we shouldn't ever forget or be dismissive of any of it.
Given time, I think the Soviets would've made it too.
I've found it interesting that the Soviets never even tried to land men on the moon. Perhaps they thought it would just remind people they came in second.
Even then, though, you'd think that they'd think that eventually other countries would land people on the moon, and that coming in second would be better than third or fourth. Strange.
Granted, that last word does describe Soviet Russia.
Yes, I've wondered that myself. Maybe they didn't want to spend the money to be second. China is actually trying to get to the moon last I heard.
I find the Second World War to be quite interesting, as well as the Punic Wars.
The Punic Wars in particular make me think: what would have happened if Hannibal won, as he almost did?
Concerning the Second World War, I often wonder why Hitler invaded Russia. It is especially interesting that he did not retreat after he discovered that the winter would and was destroying his army.
Given time, I think the Soviets would've made it too.
Yeah, probably, but we did it first, which is what mattered. It was a race, after all.
Yeah, that is true. I think the US had some major problems as far as safety. I mean, if you really dig into the Apollo 1 you'll find that NASA wasn't being as safe as they could've.
I feel like it would be possible to overtake Russia, if done right. I just think that, instead of an invasion, if they had done a coup d'etat, they would've succeeded.
If I were Hitler, I wouldn't have been evil in the first place.
Good point. I meant if I'd been Hitler and I was evil. There, that better?
Yeah. Actually, Hitler did sort of think the same way as you about defeating the UK before defeating Russia. The reason he made a peace treaty with Russia was so that he wouldn't have to fight a war on two fronts.
I agree with the fact that, without the mistreatment of people like that, the world wouldn't be the way it is.
Sure, but that doesn't make their mistreatment acceptable. Especially now, when acknowledging the marginalization and bigotry that is going on now and has been going on throughout history is so important. We need to acknowledge social issues, past and present, and work to fix them. But we shouldn't ever forget or be dismissive of any of it.
I completely agree. Most white people during the Age of Exploration were racist toward black people and Native Americans, and although that shaped the modern world, it was still really bad, and they shouldn't have done it.
I've found it interesting that the Soviets never even tried to land men on the moon. Perhaps they thought it would just remind people they came in second.
Even then, though, you'd think that they'd think that eventually other countries would land people on the moon, and that coming in second would be better than third or fourth. Strange.
Granted, that last word does describe Soviet Russia.
Yes, I've wondered that myself. Maybe they didn't want to spend the money to be second. China is actually trying to get to the moon last I heard.
Germany is also trying to go to the moon. They want to prove the moon landings were real. Also SpaceX.
