I would consider the President's private writings to be a least-fallible source of his opinions...
I need fact not opinion. According to my source Japan was willing to negotiate, however unwilling to have an unconditional surrender, in that part you are correct, however I still firmly believe that unconditional surrender was the only option for true peace. The terms that ended WW 1 was one of the main reason for WW 2, the Allies were not about to make that same mistake twice.
Now I am willing to end this argument if you are, I'd like to talk about something else in history, as for my opinion on the bomb, it was necessary.
Okay I will just say for the Last time. Japan's religion believed that their Emperor was a god, Unconditional Surrender would mean America could execute him, This was into lerable for them. America had everything in unconditional Surrender but being allowed to do something to the Emperor, Now they dropped the bombs and Japan surrendered but after all this they got to keep him
I need fact not opinion. According to my source Japan was willing to negotiate, however unwilling to have an unconditional surrender, in that part you are correct, however I still firmly believe that unconditional surrender was the only option for true peace. The terms that ended WW 1 was one of the main reason for WW 2, the Allies were not about to make that same mistake twice.
Now I am willing to end this argument if you are, I'd like to talk about something else in history, as for my opinion on the bomb, it was necessary.
Unconditional surrender was the mistake though... The Allies drained Germany of cash and resources, forcing them into a rut that started WWII. Again, the only condition was the Emperor's life, which the Americans decided to spare anyway.
It was an armistice that ended WW 1, not unconditional surrender.
Unconditional surrender was the mistake though... The Allies drained Germany of cash and resources, forcing them into a rut that started WWII. Again, the only condition was the Emperor's life, which the Americans decided to spare anyway.
It was an armistice that ended WW 1, not unconditional surrender.
On technicality, yes, but it was an unconditional surrender by the virtue that Germany was forced to accept any terms the Entente offered or force continued war.
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I was mostly joking, but in all seriousness psychology is an established scientific discipline. Maybe Freudian psychology is garbage, but you can't just discount an entire field of study out of hand like that.
Besides, memetics is way less likely to work, and it's a thing!
Old sci-fi is the best sci-fi! v this is not old sci-fi Maxim 3: An ordnance technician at a dead run outranks everybody. Maxim 24: Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a big gun.
"“Even by the twenty-second century, no way had yet been discovered of keeping elderly and conservative scientists from occupying crucial administrative positions. Indeed, it was doubted if the problem ever would be solved.” ^That, on the other hand, is old sci-fi.
It was an armistice that ended WW 1, not unconditional surrender.
On technicality, yes, but it was an unconditional surrender by the virtue that Germany was forced to accept any terms the Entente offered or force continued war.
It's pretty hard to have a conditional surrender when there's a gun to your head.
Old sci-fi is the best sci-fi! v this is not old sci-fi Maxim 3: An ordnance technician at a dead run outranks everybody. Maxim 24: Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a big gun.
"“Even by the twenty-second century, no way had yet been discovered of keeping elderly and conservative scientists from occupying crucial administrative positions. Indeed, it was doubted if the problem ever would be solved.” ^That, on the other hand, is old sci-fi.
My issue with utilitarianism like that is that if you're not insanely careful you can run into situations like "would you kill one man to theoretically save millions more from cancer", and then end up committing atrocities.
Old sci-fi is the best sci-fi! v this is not old sci-fi Maxim 3: An ordnance technician at a dead run outranks everybody. Maxim 24: Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a big gun.
"“Even by the twenty-second century, no way had yet been discovered of keeping elderly and conservative scientists from occupying crucial administrative positions. Indeed, it was doubted if the problem ever would be solved.” ^That, on the other hand, is old sci-fi.
I think you mean Klaus fuchs, not to mention Harry Gold.
See my reply to samantha
Old sci-fi is the best sci-fi! v this is not old sci-fi Maxim 3: An ordnance technician at a dead run outranks everybody. Maxim 24: Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a big gun.
"“Even by the twenty-second century, no way had yet been discovered of keeping elderly and conservative scientists from occupying crucial administrative positions. Indeed, it was doubted if the problem ever would be solved.” ^That, on the other hand, is old sci-fi.
I need fact not opinion. According to my source Japan was willing to negotiate, however unwilling to have an unconditional surrender, in that part you are correct, however I still firmly believe that unconditional surrender was the only option for true peace. The terms that ended WW 1 was one of the main reason for WW 2, the Allies were not about to make that same mistake twice.
Now I am willing to end this argument if you are, I'd like to talk about something else in history, as for my opinion on the bomb, it was necessary.
Unconditional surrender was the mistake though... The Allies drained Germany of cash and resources, forcing them into a rut that started WWII. Again, the only condition was the Emperor's life, which the Americans decided to spare anyway.
When did the Japanese try to surrender like this? What exactly did they say, and when?
Unconditional surrender was the mistake though... The Allies drained Germany of cash and resources, forcing them into a rut that started WWII. Again, the only condition was the Emperor's life, which the Americans decided to spare anyway.
When did the Japanese try to surrender like this? What exactly did they say, and when?
I'm not privy to the exact surrender documents; one was transferred during the Potsdam Conference and the other shortly before the first bomb was dropped.
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Really? I thought his name was Karl. Meh, it's been ages since I read that book
You got the last name right and that's the important part.
He was known as "Karl" at Los Alamos.
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I was mostly joking, but in all seriousness psychology is an established scientific discipline. Maybe Freudian psychology is garbage, but you can't just discount an entire field of study out of hand like that.
Besides, memetics is way less likely to work, and it's a thing!
You can easily destroy it, it is all a waste of time.
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