30 kio is less than the range of average SAMs in the real world. If anything, bionicle missiles would be better
No homing ability, just a wall of explosives. 8 vahki are lost
The city is being shelled too, which cannot be intercepted. Nonetheless, the fleet has no problem with allowing matoran to evacuate. If they wanted to kill matoran, they wouldn't be destroying the metru outskirts to center
We still would have seen TSO use them, or at least mention their usefulness. We could blame Greg, though, and say he was just inconsistent when in favor of the story.
IC: (wall of explosives reaction is as follows) The squads split up, flying through any gaps they can find. If there are no gaps, they simply make them via kanoka, possibly even creating a chain reaction.
Meanwhile, back on the Metru, the vahki firing number in the hundreds, each one firing disks and using beams from their stun staffs to pre ignite incoming missiles. Add to that the number of matoran with disk launchers and a team of toa, no more damage is done during the barrage. The question is who will run out of ammo first?
The flying vahki squad is already obliterated, as it is impossible to avoid point-defense systems of this magnitude. I will hear no more of it.
The missiles are likely intercepted, but the incoming artillery shells are simply too fast for even po metru discs to be of use.
We still would have seen TSO use them, or at least mention their usefulness. We could blame Greg, though, and say he was just inconsistent when in favor of the story.
IC: (wall of explosives reaction is as follows) The squads split up, flying through any gaps they can find. If there are no gaps, they simply make them via kanoka, possibly even creating a chain reaction.
Meanwhile, back on the Metru, the vahki firing number in the hundreds, each one firing disks and using beams from their stun staffs to pre ignite incoming missiles. Add to that the number of matoran with disk launchers and a team of toa, no more damage is done during the barrage. The question is who will run out of ammo first?
The flying vahki squad is already obliterated, as it is impossible to avoid point-defense systems of this magnitude. I will hear no more of it.
The missiles are likely intercepted, but the incoming artillery shells are simply too fast for even po metru discs to be of use.
Regardless of how close or far away these vahki are, the rockets still do not have targeting systems. If this wall was supposed to be close knit, ^^bolded^^ would occur. If the wall was spread out, I refer to the ^^underlined^^. If you misspoke when you said that the rockets collectively resembled a wall, then I can make a post for that instead, but it won't end up much different. Also, you should never dismiss a viable responce simply because you yourself didn't think it was possible.
IC: Clank! Clank! Clank! Clankclank! Clank! Six Keerakh land on one of the ships while their partner squad risks further exposure in the sky to signal the incoming support. The grounded police force blasts any brotherhood agents in sight with their staffs.
The Metru is nearly evacuated thanks to the efficient chute system. Few matoran stay behind to collect important memory crystals and throw them into the chutes. A small number of vahki suffer the incoming cordak and are replaced.
The flying vahki squad is already obliterated, as it is impossible to avoid point-defense systems of this magnitude. I will hear no more of it.
The missiles are likely intercepted, but the incoming artillery shells are simply too fast for even po metru discs to be of use.
Regardless of how close or far away these vahki are, the rockets still do not have targeting systems. If this wall was supposed to be close knit, ^^bolded^^ would occur. If the wall was spread out, I refer to the ^^underlined^^. If you misspoke when you said that the rockets collectively resembled a wall, then I can make a post for that instead, but it won't end up much different. Also, you should never dismiss a viable responce simply because you yourself didn't think it was possible.
IC: Clank! Clank! Clank! Clankclank! Clank! Six Keerakh land on one of the ships while their partner squad risks further exposure in the sky to signal the incoming support. The grounded police force blasts any brotherhood agents in sight with their staffs.
The Metru is nearly evacuated thanks to the efficient chute system. Few matoran stay behind to collect important memory crystals and throw them into the chutes. A small number of vahki suffer the incoming cordak and are replaced.
OOC: It's a wall several layers thick. Each ship shoots missiles one after another, six of them. That would I suppose make six ill defined layers of 50 missiles each. If disks took out gaps in one layer, they would be destroyed faster than they could make a banking maneuver. I will ignore absurdity.
IC: The knowledge towers are crumbling, burying vahki and a small amount of the slower matoran. The metru is 75% destroyed.
Regardless of how close or far away these vahki are, the rockets still do not have targeting systems. If this wall was supposed to be close knit, ^^bolded^^ would occur. If the wall was spread out, I refer to the ^^underlined^^. If you misspoke when you said that the rockets collectively resembled a wall, then I can make a post for that instead, but it won't end up much different. Also, you should never dismiss a viable responce simply because you yourself didn't think it was possible.
IC: Clank! Clank! Clank! Clankclank! Clank! Six Keerakh land on one of the ships while their partner squad risks further exposure in the sky to signal the incoming support. The grounded police force blasts any brotherhood agents in sight with their staffs.
The Metru is nearly evacuated thanks to the efficient chute system. Few matoran stay behind to collect important memory crystals and throw them into the chutes. A small number of vahki suffer the incoming cordak and are replaced.
OOC: It's a wall several layers thick. Each ship shoots missiles one after another, six of them. That would I suppose make six ill defined layers of 50 missiles each. If disks took out gaps in one layer, they would be destroyed faster than they could make a banking maneuver. I will ignore absurdity.
IC: The knowledge towers are crumbling, burying vahki and a small amount of the slower matoran. The metru is 75% destroyed.
OOC: Alright, let's do it my way.
According to the image we see in the Odina Training Grounds artwork, the rockets appear to be two bio in diameter when compared to the Dark Hunters relatively the same distance away from the artist. TSO --if anything-- was excessive, so we know that his rockets are likely the biggest ones on the market. 3.1416 x 4.5ft^2 = 63.6174sqft Now we have the area of the front of each incoming rocket. Multiply that by the number you gave me --50-- and we get 3,080.87 total square feet that these vahki do no want to touch.
How big is a vahki? That depends what mode they are in. In bipedal mode, the vahki is 2 bio tall and one bio wide, giving us a rough estimate of 2 square bio of exposed area if they were running foreward (this is being nice). But no! Vahki actually fly in quadrupedal mode, which makes them roughly 1 bio by 1 bio, making their total exposed frontal area 1 square bio.
So how close do these rockets need to be to keep the vahki from fitting through? A little over 1 bio, (no vahki has powerful enough flight mechanisms to allow for piloting through areas just big enough to fit through) but let's be nice and say 2 bio apart. 4 square bio in between missiles.
So how much area is a layer of rockets taking up? Just to refresh, each rocket could be up to 2 bio wide, with 2 bio between each one. The square root of the number of missiles is 7.071, so that's about how many rockets are in each side of the wall. Now we do the math. First, let's calculate the total distance of in betweens on one side. 6 x 2 bio (9 feet) = 12 bio (54 feet) Now to see how much distance the missiles themselves are taking up on one side. 2 bio × 7.071 = 14.142 bio (63.639 feet) Let's add the total distance each rocket takes up to the total distance the in betweens take up. 12 bio + 14.142 bio = 26.142 bio (72.639 feet) So now we have the total length of one side of this rocket wall, and if we square it, we get the total area. 26.142 bio x 26.142 = 683.404 square bio (3075.318 square feet). This is the maximum area that the missiles can occupy without the vahki slipping through.
Are the missiles far enough away from eachother to prevent a chain reaction of detonation? Let's give these missiles a payload similar to Cordak, which can turn boulders to dust. Actually, that's being mean. There's no way that detonating a cordak wouldn't have a blast radius greater then 2 bio (the distance in between rockets). Let's be SUPER generous and go with 5 kilograms of TNT. I looked it up, and 11 meters (36' 1", or a hair above 8 bio) is the zone in which machines may be damaged but not disabled when detonating just 1 kilogram of TNT. This should be enough for me to convince you without me having to calculate the blast radius of 5 kilograms. In order for a carefully aimed disk to not set of a chain reaction, the rockets would have to be 8 bio apart.
Let's also remember that I was being generous with my calculations quite a lot, so the probability of vahki making it through is actually even higher.
So there you have it. The rockets were either close enough for the vahki to wipe them all out with a few disks, or they were simply too spread out to seriously worry the defenders of Metru Nui.
IC: The squad on board on ship aims the weaponry at the other ships, either manually or through ship controls. Such a task is easy when the crew remembers nothing about their time and place.
OOC: It's a wall several layers thick. Each ship shoots missiles one after another, six of them. That would I suppose make six ill defined layers of 50 missiles each. If disks took out gaps in one layer, they would be destroyed faster than they could make a banking maneuver. I will ignore absurdity.
IC: The knowledge towers are crumbling, burying vahki and a small amount of the slower matoran. The metru is 75% destroyed.
OOC: Alright, let's do it my way.
According to the image we see in the Odina Training Grounds artwork, the rockets appear to be two bio in diameter when compared to the Dark Hunters relatively the same distance away from the artist. TSO --if anything-- was excessive, so we know that his rockets are likely the biggest ones on the market. 3.1416 x 4.5ft^2 = 63.6174sqft Now we have the area of the front of each incoming rocket. Multiply that by the number you gave me --50-- and we get 3,080.87 total square feet that these vahki do no want to touch.
How big is a vahki? That depends what mode they are in. In bipedal mode, the vahki is 2 bio tall and one bio wide, giving us a rough estimate of 2 square bio of exposed area if they were running foreward (this is being nice). But no! Vahki actually fly in quadrupedal mode, which makes them roughly 1 bio by 1 bio, making their total exposed frontal area 1 square bio.
So how close do these rockets need to be to keep the vahki from fitting through? A little over 1 bio, (no vahki has powerful enough flight mechanisms to allow for piloting through areas just big enough to fit through) but let's be nice and say 2 bio apart. 4 square bio in between missiles.
So how much area is a layer of rockets taking up? Just to refresh, each rocket could be up to 2 bio wide, with 2 bio between each one. The square root of the number of missiles is 7.071, so that's about how many rockets are in each side of the wall. Now we do the math. First, let's calculate the total distance of in betweens on one side. 6 x 2 bio (9 feet) = 12 bio (54 feet) Now to see how much distance the missiles themselves are taking up on one side. 2 bio × 7.071 = 14.142 bio (63.639 feet) Let's add the total distance each rocket takes up to the total distance the in betweens take up. 12 bio + 14.142 bio = 26.142 bio (72.639 feet) So now we have the total length of one side of this rocket wall, and if we square it, we get the total area. 26.142 bio x 26.142 = 683.404 square bio (3075.318 square feet). This is the maximum area that the missiles can occupy without the vahki slipping through.
Are the missiles far enough away from eachother to prevent a chain reaction of detonation? Let's give these missiles a payload similar to Cordak, which can turn boulders to dust. Actually, that's being mean. There's no way that detonating a cordak wouldn't have a blast radius greater then 2 bio (the distance in between rockets). Let's be SUPER generous and go with 5 kilograms of TNT. I looked it up, and 11 meters (36' 1", or a hair above 8 bio) is the zone in which machines may be damaged but not disabled when detonating just 1 kilogram of TNT. This should be enough for me to convince you without me having to calculate the blast radius of 5 kilograms. In order for a carefully aimed disk to not set of a chain reaction, the rockets would have to be 8 bio apart.
Let's also remember that I was being generous with my calculations quite a lot, so the probability of vahki making it through is actually even higher.
So there you have it. The rockets were either close enough for the vahki to wipe them all out with a few disks, or they were simply too spread out to seriously worry the defenders of Metru Nui.
IC: The squad on board on ship aims the weaponry at the other ships, either manually or through ship controls. Such a task is easy when the crew remembers nothing about their time and place.
Six more squads reach the air above the ships.
Evacuation complete.
I read your calculations and came to a completely different conclusion, but realize you are too stubborn to accept it.
Even IF your vahki managed to make it through, not a single crew member would be in range, as there is no deck, only a hull that encompasses all important aspects of the ships controls. It is essentially a seafaring tank.
More missiles are sent using sanok and kualsi disks. The explosives are teleported within a foot of the individual vahki. This goes for all still active.
According to the image we see in the Odina Training Grounds artwork, the rockets appear to be two bio in diameter when compared to the Dark Hunters relatively the same distance away from the artist. TSO --if anything-- was excessive, so we know that his rockets are likely the biggest ones on the market. 3.1416 x 4.5ft^2 = 63.6174sqft Now we have the area of the front of each incoming rocket. Multiply that by the number you gave me --50-- and we get 3,080.87 total square feet that these vahki do no want to touch.
How big is a vahki? That depends what mode they are in. In bipedal mode, the vahki is 2 bio tall and one bio wide, giving us a rough estimate of 2 square bio of exposed area if they were running foreward (this is being nice). But no! Vahki actually fly in quadrupedal mode, which makes them roughly 1 bio by 1 bio, making their total exposed frontal area 1 square bio.
So how close do these rockets need to be to keep the vahki from fitting through? A little over 1 bio, (no vahki has powerful enough flight mechanisms to allow for piloting through areas just big enough to fit through) but let's be nice and say 2 bio apart. 4 square bio in between missiles.
So how much area is a layer of rockets taking up? Just to refresh, each rocket could be up to 2 bio wide, with 2 bio between each one. The square root of the number of missiles is 7.071, so that's about how many rockets are in each side of the wall. Now we do the math. First, let's calculate the total distance of in betweens on one side. 6 x 2 bio (9 feet) = 12 bio (54 feet) Now to see how much distance the missiles themselves are taking up on one side. 2 bio × 7.071 = 14.142 bio (63.639 feet) Let's add the total distance each rocket takes up to the total distance the in betweens take up. 12 bio + 14.142 bio = 26.142 bio (72.639 feet) So now we have the total length of one side of this rocket wall, and if we square it, we get the total area. 26.142 bio x 26.142 = 683.404 square bio (3075.318 square feet). This is the maximum area that the missiles can occupy without the vahki slipping through.
Are the missiles far enough away from eachother to prevent a chain reaction of detonation? Let's give these missiles a payload similar to Cordak, which can turn boulders to dust. Actually, that's being mean. There's no way that detonating a cordak wouldn't have a blast radius greater then 2 bio (the distance in between rockets). Let's be SUPER generous and go with 5 kilograms of TNT. I looked it up, and 11 meters (36' 1", or a hair above 8 bio) is the zone in which machines may be damaged but not disabled when detonating just 1 kilogram of TNT. This should be enough for me to convince you without me having to calculate the blast radius of 5 kilograms. In order for a carefully aimed disk to not set of a chain reaction, the rockets would have to be 8 bio apart.
Let's also remember that I was being generous with my calculations quite a lot, so the probability of vahki making it through is actually even higher.
So there you have it. The rockets were either close enough for the vahki to wipe them all out with a few disks, or they were simply too spread out to seriously worry the defenders of Metru Nui.
IC: The squad on board on ship aims the weaponry at the other ships, either manually or through ship controls. Such a task is easy when the crew remembers nothing about their time and place.
Six more squads reach the air above the ships.
Evacuation complete.
I read your calculations and came to a completely different conclusion, but realize you are too stubborn to accept it.
Even IF your vahki managed to make it through, not a single crew member would be in range, as there is no deck, only a hull that encompasses all important aspects of the ships controls. It is essentially a seafaring tank.
More missiles are sent using sanok and kualsi disks. The explosives are teleported within a foot of the individual vahki. This goes for all still active.
The metru is reduced to rubble.
Sweet Tren Krom below. If you guys are bringing out numbers and *shudders* MATH then ya'll need to chill a bit. Let's not say people are too stubborn to accept things, please? I ask both of you to consider things from the other persons perspective.
I read your calculations and came to a completely different conclusion, but realize you are too stubborn to accept it.
Even IF your vahki managed to make it through, not a single crew member would be in range, as there is no deck, only a hull that encompasses all important aspects of the ships controls. It is essentially a seafaring tank.
More missiles are sent using sanok and kualsi disks. The explosives are teleported within a foot of the individual vahki. This goes for all still active.
The metru is reduced to rubble.
Sweet Tren Krom below. If you guys are bringing out numbers and *shudders* MATH then ya'll need to chill a bit. Let's not say people are too stubborn to accept things, please? I ask both of you to consider things from the other persons perspective.
Sweet Tren Krom below. If you guys are bringing out numbers and *shudders* MATH then ya'll need to chill a bit. Let's not say people are too stubborn to accept things, please? I ask both of you to consider things from the other persons perspective.
I take it that you've never been to the LotR RP?
I almost guarantee we've done some trigonometry to calculate Trebuchet vectors at some point
A Trygon bursts out of the ground with a roar and wraps its massive bulk around a knowledge tower. The building shatters under the pressure and collapses. The Rahi lowers its head and burrows into the ground again, leaving its original tunnel unoccupied. Dozens of other Rahi swarm out of the hole and begin to annihilate the remnants of the Metru.
A massive swarm of Gargoyles, having finished its work in Le-Metru, flies overhead. Any Matoran unlucky enough to have missed the tubes are devoured by these flying abominations.
Carnifexes rampage through the streets and smash the smaller buildings to pieces. A few of them with biological weaponry begin spreading toxins throughout the city, claiming the territory for the Swarm. Gaunts follow behind them and devour any organic matter they can find.
