Regardless of whether or not somebody else isn't playing fair -- it is simply unacceptable to play unfairly. It devalues your character and also devalues the other person's character when you do so. It says "my character isn't smart enough to live through this. Therefore, I am going to force my way through it and just force my opponent to accept it."
Is smashing people not allowed here? You appear to be giving that overall impression. If you aren't could you please give a little more information on what RPCs can and can't do, preferably without jargon? Also it would be wonderful if you could explain to us in a more clear way how being able to dodge OP attacks has a negative effect on this community. From my experience dodging OP attacks in clever ways usually tends to avoid page long arguments/debates.
Also you have dodged my original retort. Could you please form a response to it that elaborates on your stance to the subject?
My post DOES advocate for dodging in clever ways -- but forcing yourself to escape isn't reasonable.
Conversely, your Krahka created a nigh-inescapable situation, which in itself is also unfair.
My stance is basically that I expect fair fights -- and when they're not fair, I expect them to have intelligence on the part of the victim, and some restraint on the part of the stronger character (I mean, if we're talking about a Makuta versus a Matoran: that Matoran is dead unless it somehow magically runs far enough away but a Makuta versus a Toa, or a similar matchup, that deserves some mercy).
I am, however, all for lethalities. However, I do expect there to be (most of the time) some level of agreement between two users before any RPC is slain.
I am going to convene with The FAC Rocka and see what he thinks of Krahka.
Hopefully Keplers will be able to offer his opinion
Regardless of whether or not somebody else isn't playing fair -- it is simply unacceptable to play unfairly. It devalues your character and also devalues the other person's character when you do so. It says "my character isn't smart enough to live through this. Therefore, I am going to force my way through it and just force my opponent to accept it."
I see your point. Carry on Rep.
I would also encourage you Drake to recognize when a situation is inescapable, and to point it out to your opponent. Not everything you do has to be in character. And I also implore you to treat your RPC not as an invincible hero -- but a Toa just like any other, just as vulnerable and susceptible to certain attacks as all his other brothers and sisters.
I would also encourage you Drake to recognize when a situation is inescapable, and to point it out to your opponent. Not everything you do has to be in character. And I also implore you to treat your RPC not as an invincible hero -- but a Toa just like any other, just as vulnerable and susceptible to certain attacks as all his other brothers and sisters.
I get that.
But it wasn't inescapable. I thought it seemed pretty easy.
Is smashing people not allowed here? You appear to be giving that overall impression. If you aren't could you please give a little more information on what RPCs can and can't do, preferably without jargon? Also it would be wonderful if you could explain to us in a more clear way how being able to dodge OP attacks has a negative effect on this community. From my experience dodging OP attacks in clever ways usually tends to avoid page long arguments/debates.
Also you have dodged my original retort. Could you please form a response to it that elaborates on your stance to the subject?
My post DOES advocate for dodging in clever ways -- but forcing yourself to escape isn't reasonable.
Conversely, your Krahka created a nigh-inescapable situation, which in itself is also unfair.
My stance is basically that I expect fair fights -- and when they're not fair, I expect them to have intelligence on the part of the victim, and some restraint on the part of the stronger character (I mean, if we're talking about a Makuta versus a Matoran: that Matoran is dead unless it somehow magically runs far enough away but a Makuta versus a Toa, or a similar matchup, that deserves some mercy).
I am, however, all for lethalities. However, I do expect there to be (most of the time) some level of agreement between two users before any RPC is slain.
I am going to convene with The FAC Rocka and see what he thinks of Krahka.
Hopefully Keplers will be able to offer his opinion
So I assume I will not get a response to my original question?
The solution my Krahka has created isn't "nigh-inescapable" These are Toa of Fire we are talking about. Toa of Fire can absorb heat and have a certain level or resistance to heat. Also the one that just tried to plow through the plasma with fire has a Hau which he could have used instead of that move which will smash him. (I would have used another word here, but it kinda goes along with the don't say the k word.) Now that you have forced me to give you the counters for my move and therefore make it null and void can you please tell me why you are getting upset about what is currently a Makuta?
Obviously, you've never met any of my matoran. All jokes aside, how are Makuta suppose to even fight in this RP by what you are stating? In Gen 1 makuta can give their all against a toa and that toa can still win.
No offense, but that is going to cheapen a lot of fights if no one wants their characters to die. Fights will go on forever because everyone wants it to be one of these three things; Fair, No one dies, or My RPC is more skilled than yours. (The last one comes with debates.)
Due to the fact that the fanon approval commits is for fanon and Krahka is canon, I don't see why you are bringing it to the FAC. Nikan killed Koro (One of my two makuta RPCs) and this is how he is now RPing as a Makuta. Seeing as Makuta aren't banned I don't see why my Krahka should be. This RP doesn't have all powerful beings that I can copy either, just canon ones for the most part. This makes my Krahka on scale with whatever you guys create. I think I have stated that Nikan's list of things he can transform into has been rebooted so he isn't OP. So he can currently turn into Makuta, Rahkshi, and Toa of Fire. Nothing in that list has been banned, and if he were to copy something that gets banned, obviously I wouldn't use that persona.
I would also encourage you Drake to recognize when a situation is inescapable, and to point it out to your opponent. Not everything you do has to be in character. And I also implore you to treat your RPC not as an invincible hero -- but a Toa just like any other, just as vulnerable and susceptible to certain attacks as all his other brothers and sisters.
I get that.
But it wasn't inescapable. I thought it seemed pretty easy.
Do you want to go back and edit your post. Because your current form of action will get you smashed.
My post DOES advocate for dodging in clever ways -- but forcing yourself to escape isn't reasonable.
Conversely, your Krahka created a nigh-inescapable situation, which in itself is also unfair.
My stance is basically that I expect fair fights -- and when they're not fair, I expect them to have intelligence on the part of the victim, and some restraint on the part of the stronger character (I mean, if we're talking about a Makuta versus a Matoran: that Matoran is dead unless it somehow magically runs far enough away but a Makuta versus a Toa, or a similar matchup, that deserves some mercy).
I am, however, all for lethalities. However, I do expect there to be (most of the time) some level of agreement between two users before any RPC is slain.
I am going to convene with The FAC Rocka and see what he thinks of Krahka.
Hopefully Keplers will be able to offer his opinion
So I assume I will not get a response to my original question?
The solution my Krahka has created isn't "nigh-inescapable" These are Toa of Fire we are talking about. Toa of Fire can absorb heat and have a certain level or resistance to heat. Also the one that just tried to plow through the plasma with fire has a Hau which he could have used instead of that move which will smash him. (I would have used another word here, but it kinda goes along with the don't say the k word.) Now that you have forced me to give you the counters for my move and therefore make it null and void can you please tell me why you are getting upset about what is currently a Makuta?
Obviously, you've never met any of my matoran. All jokes aside, how are Makuta suppose to even fight in this RP by what you are stating? In Gen 1 makuta can give their all against a toa and that toa can still win.
No offense, but that is going to cheapen a lot of fights if no one wants their characters to die. Fights will go on forever because everyone wants it to be one of these three things; Fair, No one dies, or My RPC is more skilled than yours. (The last one comes with debates.)
Due to the fact that the fanon approval commits is for fanon and Krahka is canon, I don't see why you are bringing it to the FAC. Nikan killed Koro (One of my two makuta RPCs) and this is how he is now RPing as a Makuta. Seeing as Makuta aren't banned I don't see why my Krahka should be. This RP doesn't have all powerful beings that I can copy either, just canon ones for the most part. This makes my Krahka on scale with whatever you guys create. I think I have stated that Nikan's list of things he can transform into has been rebooted so he isn't OP. So he can currently turn into Makuta, Rahkshi, and Toa of Fire. Nothing in that list has been banned, and if he were to copy something that gets banned, obviously I wouldn't use that persona.
Well then, that's your opponent's fault for not thinking of it
Makuta are notorious for holding back in battle. The ones that don't could easily crush any Toa. (Even Takanuva admits that Teridax would have crushed him if it wasn't part of his plan to let Takanuva win).
Right, which is why I expect maturity and intelligence from everyone present in this RP:P
The FAC doubles as my rulemaking medium since some of the mods got on my case the last time I tried to amend the rules on my own.
THe thing about Krahka is that they can combine forms, and potentially emulate every single power in the MU.
So I assume I will not get a response to my original question?
The solution my Krahka has created isn't "nigh-inescapable" These are Toa of Fire we are talking about. Toa of Fire can absorb heat and have a certain level or resistance to heat. Also the one that just tried to plow through the plasma with fire has a Hau which he could have used instead of that move which will smash him. (I would have used another word here, but it kinda goes along with the don't say the k word.) Now that you have forced me to give you the counters for my move and therefore make it null and void can you please tell me why you are getting upset about what is currently a Makuta?
Obviously, you've never met any of my matoran. All jokes aside, how are Makuta suppose to even fight in this RP by what you are stating? In Gen 1 makuta can give their all against a toa and that toa can still win.
No offense, but that is going to cheapen a lot of fights if no one wants their characters to die. Fights will go on forever because everyone wants it to be one of these three things; Fair, No one dies, or My RPC is more skilled than yours. (The last one comes with debates.)
Due to the fact that the fanon approval commits is for fanon and Krahka is canon, I don't see why you are bringing it to the FAC. Nikan killed Koro (One of my two makuta RPCs) and this is how he is now RPing as a Makuta. Seeing as Makuta aren't banned I don't see why my Krahka should be. This RP doesn't have all powerful beings that I can copy either, just canon ones for the most part. This makes my Krahka on scale with whatever you guys create. I think I have stated that Nikan's list of things he can transform into has been rebooted so he isn't OP. So he can currently turn into Makuta, Rahkshi, and Toa of Fire. Nothing in that list has been banned, and if he were to copy something that gets banned, obviously I wouldn't use that persona.
Well then, that's your opponent's fault for not thinking of it
Makuta are notorious for holding back in battle. The ones that don't could easily crush any Toa. (Even Takanuva admits that Teridax would have crushed him if it wasn't part of his plan to let Takanuva win).
Right, which is why I expect maturity and intelligence from everyone present in this RP
The FAC doubles as my rulemaking medium since some of the mods got on my case the last time I tried to amend the rules on my own.
THe thing about Krahka is that they can combine forms, and potentially emulate every single power in the MU.
No, with all due respect it is your fault for forcing me to tell you it. You can't call my move OP, have me explain them, and then blame my opponents for not thinking up what I've stated.
I'm holding back. I'm not using Gravity or Stasis to instant smash them. The situation they are in is a result of multiple posts. I have not one shot them or done anything OP to speak of.
Which isn't a realistic on the internet. You want something you will never get. Immaturity is a staple product of most forums and the LMBEs is defiantly no expcetion..
Thank you for clarifying that.
Have I done that? First Nikan can't emulate every power at once. Krahka couldn't handle mixing more than six beings in canon. Also Nikan hasn't seen everyone, and will probably just be switching from Toa to Makuta. You have a fear of a character which I played over powered as a twelve year old newbie in the original RP. I would like to think that I have matured enough to realize how to RP fairly with Nikan.
Also throughout the course of our conversation you have been dodging multiple questions. Could you please refrain from doing that and go back and respond to them?
Well then, that's your opponent's fault for not thinking of it
Makuta are notorious for holding back in battle. The ones that don't could easily crush any Toa. (Even Takanuva admits that Teridax would have crushed him if it wasn't part of his plan to let Takanuva win).
Right, which is why I expect maturity and intelligence from everyone present in this RP
The FAC doubles as my rulemaking medium since some of the mods got on my case the last time I tried to amend the rules on my own.
THe thing about Krahka is that they can combine forms, and potentially emulate every single power in the MU.
No, with all due respect it is your fault for forcing me to tell you it. You can't call my move OP, have me explain them, and then blame my opponents for not thinking up what I've stated.
I'm holding back. I'm not using Gravity or Stasis to instant smash them. The situation they are in is a result of multiple posts. I have not one shot them or done anything OP to speak of.
Which isn't a realistic on the internet. You want something you will never get. Immaturity is a staple product of most forums and the LMBEs is defiantly no expcetion..
Thank you for clarifying that.
Have I done that? First Nikan can't emulate every power at once. Krahka couldn't handle mixing more than six beings in canon. Also Nikan hasn't seen everyone, and will probably just be switching from Toa to Makuta. You have a fear of a character which I played over powered as a twelve year old newbie in the original RP. I would like to think that I have matured enough to realize how to RP fairly with Nikan.
Also throughout the course of our conversation you have been dodging multiple questions. Could you please refrain from doing that and go back and respond to them?
If I've dodged one of your questions, it's because I don't have an answer to it
My post DOES advocate for dodging in clever ways -- but forcing yourself to escape isn't reasonable.
Conversely, your Krahka created a nigh-inescapable situation, which in itself is also unfair.
My stance is basically that I expect fair fights -- and when they're not fair, I expect them to have intelligence on the part of the victim, and some restraint on the part of the stronger character (I mean, if we're talking about a Makuta versus a Matoran: that Matoran is dead unless it somehow magically runs far enough away but a Makuta versus a Toa, or a similar matchup, that deserves some mercy).
I am, however, all for lethalities. However, I do expect there to be (most of the time) some level of agreement between two users before any RPC is slain.
I am going to convene with The FAC Rocka and see what he thinks of Krahka.
Hopefully Keplers will be able to offer his opinion
So I assume I will not get a response to my original question?
The solution my Krahka has created isn't "nigh-inescapable" These are Toa of Fire we are talking about. Toa of Fire can absorb heat and have a certain level or resistance to heat. Also the one that just tried to plow through the plasma with fire has a Hau which he could have used instead of that move which will smash him. (I would have used another word here, but it kinda goes along with the don't say the k word.) Now that you have forced me to give you the counters for my move and therefore make it null and void can you please tell me why you are getting upset about what is currently a Makuta?
Obviously, you've never met any of my matoran. All jokes aside, how are Makuta suppose to even fight in this RP by what you are stating? In Gen 1 makuta can give their all against a toa and that toa can still win.
No offense, but that is going to cheapen a lot of fights if no one wants their characters to die. Fights will go on forever because everyone wants it to be one of these three things; Fair, No one dies, or My RPC is more skilled than yours. (The last one comes with debates.)
Due to the fact that the fanon approval commits is for fanon and Krahka is canon, I don't see why you are bringing it to the FAC. Nikan killed Koro (One of my two makuta RPCs) and this is how he is now RPing as a Makuta. Seeing as Makuta aren't banned I don't see why my Krahka should be. This RP doesn't have all powerful beings that I can copy either, just canon ones for the most part. This makes my Krahka on scale with whatever you guys create. I think I have stated that Nikan's list of things he can transform into has been rebooted so he isn't OP. So he can currently turn into Makuta, Rahkshi, and Toa of Fire. Nothing in that list has been banned, and if he were to copy something that gets banned, obviously I wouldn't use that persona.
No, with all due respect it is your fault for forcing me to tell you it. You can't call my move OP, have me explain them, and then blame my opponents for not thinking up what I've stated.
I'm holding back. I'm not using Gravity or Stasis to instant smash them. The situation they are in is a result of multiple posts. I have not one shot them or done anything OP to speak of.
Which isn't a realistic on the internet. You want something you will never get. Immaturity is a staple product of most forums and the LMBEs is defiantly no expcetion..
Thank you for clarifying that.
Have I done that? First Nikan can't emulate every power at once. Krahka couldn't handle mixing more than six beings in canon. Also Nikan hasn't seen everyone, and will probably just be switching from Toa to Makuta. You have a fear of a character which I played over powered as a twelve year old newbie in the original RP. I would like to think that I have matured enough to realize how to RP fairly with Nikan.
Also throughout the course of our conversation you have been dodging multiple questions. Could you please refrain from doing that and go back and respond to them?
If I've dodged one of your questions, it's because I don't have an answer to it
Brilliant. Our Rep, everybody. Seriously, though, I am fine. This guy is not OP. I would say we are fairly evenly matched. If the Toa Nuva survived as long as they did against what they faced, I think I could handle myself against Deadpool over here.
No, with all due respect it is your fault for forcing me to tell you it. You can't call my move OP, have me explain them, and then blame my opponents for not thinking up what I've stated.
I'm holding back. I'm not using Gravity or Stasis to instant smash them. The situation they are in is a result of multiple posts. I have not one shot them or done anything OP to speak of.
Which isn't a realistic on the internet. You want something you will never get. Immaturity is a staple product of most forums and the LMBEs is defiantly no expcetion..
Thank you for clarifying that.
Have I done that? First Nikan can't emulate every power at once. Krahka couldn't handle mixing more than six beings in canon. Also Nikan hasn't seen everyone, and will probably just be switching from Toa to Makuta. You have a fear of a character which I played over powered as a twelve year old newbie in the original RP. I would like to think that I have matured enough to realize how to RP fairly with Nikan.
Also throughout the course of our conversation you have been dodging multiple questions. Could you please refrain from doing that and go back and respond to them?
If I've dodged one of your questions, it's because I don't have an answer to it
If I've dodged one of your questions, it's because I don't have an answer to it
Brilliant. Our Rep, everybody. Seriously, though, I am fine. This guy is not OP. I would say we are fairly evenly matched. If the Toa Nuva survived as long as they did against what they faced, I think I could handle myself against Deadpool over here.
The Toa Nuva were twice as powerful as regular Toa though, and Takata is a regular Toa
@mrc Oh, you mean like how Nikan is a regular Makuta? Or how you are some omnipresent bogeyman? I am a Toa. Nuva or Mata, Metru or Hordika, I am a Toa. I can take this guy, if only you'd stop arguing and let us roleplay like we are supposed to.
@mrc Oh, you mean like how Nikan is a regular Makuta? Or how you are some omnipresent bogeyman? I am a Toa. Nuva or Mata, Metru or Hordika, I am a Toa. I can take this guy, if only you'd stop arguing and let us roleplay like we are supposed to.
1. Nikan is a Krahka
2. Kratark is a Makuta -- a very scary one at that.
3. Takata is merely a regular Toa. A Toa NUVA is one that has been exposed to energized protodermis, and was destined to become a Toa nuva.