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Post by ridderthomas on Feb 10, 2022 17:42:28 GMT
I think you and I are almost in agreement. The only difference is that you're saying the ET has been openly fighting the MRE for hundreds of years, and I'm saying that couldn't have been the case. Because: 1: The Empire would've eventually destroyed the much smaller (remember, the Rays' population spreads an entire continent) ET at some point; the group simply wouldn't have been able to survive for 800 years if they fought the Empire and the Empire knew of their existence. 2: The Rays knowing about the ET at any point before 219 BR is a direct contradiction of the lore, since like I said, they didn't know there was an eastern continent until Faerin told them about it. If you want, we could compromise and say that the ET began open warfare against the MRE in the year 20 BR. Any longer than that is a stretch of logic. Hmmm. To strike down the middle, what if the ET sent out spies to secretly fight the Rays without them knowing? Perhaps they were behind supposed natural disasters, sowed seeds of discord amongst the Rays in order for them to never grow too powerful to challenge them or other tribes? Thus, in a way, the ET were "fighting" the Rays, but their goal wasn't total destruction, but only to keep a possible rival subdued?
Then when the Rays learned of the ET around 219BR, they began warfare with them.the idea of not totally war is ok,but they fight the mre,and in the origin story is said:the mre helped a coup in the frigate bird tribe.and to the j;I think you are changing my whole background story,by saying the mre otherwise should now about the chima tribes,ever heard about the gryphon tribe.second,it isn’t a compromise,it is your wanting,not they of us both.third your theory is a stretch of logic.fourth,you say I “always control characters of others”,but you change whole tribe history,without the makers agree,by yourself,and you call it a compromise.fifth,it is the colony not the ET.back to fourth:you call me a idiot newbie that don’t understand the rules,but you want control my whole tribe history.I even agree if you control my tribe(if you send the king),but the whole tribe history with that weak arguments,a step to far,way to far
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Post by The J on Feb 11, 2022 0:32:36 GMT
I think you and I are almost in agreement. The only difference is that you're saying the ET has been openly fighting the MRE for hundreds of years, and I'm saying that couldn't have been the case. Because: 1: The Empire would've eventually destroyed the much smaller (remember, the Rays' population spreads an entire continent) ET at some point; the group simply wouldn't have been able to survive for 800 years if they fought the Empire and the Empire knew of their existence. 2: The Rays knowing about the ET at any point before 219 BR is a direct contradiction of the lore, since like I said, they didn't know there was an eastern continent until Faerin told them about it. If you want, we could compromise and say that the ET began open warfare against the MRE in the year 20 BR. Any longer than that is a stretch of logic. Hmmm. To strike down the middle, what if the ET sent out spies to secretly fight the Rays without them knowing? Perhaps they were behind supposed natural disasters, sowed seeds of discord amongst the Rays in order for them to never grow too powerful to challenge them or other tribes? Thus, in a way, the ET were "fighting" the Rays, but their goal wasn't total destruction, but only to keep a possible rival subdued?
Then when the Rays learned of the ET around 219BR, they began warfare with them.Well that was pretty much my original idea, but ridderthomas seems to be in opposition to it.
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Post by The J on Feb 11, 2022 0:59:35 GMT
I think you and I are almost in agreement. The only difference is that you're saying the ET has been openly fighting the MRE for hundreds of years, and I'm saying that couldn't have been the case. Because: 1: The Empire would've eventually destroyed the much smaller (remember, the Rays' population spreads an entire continent) ET at some point; the group simply wouldn't have been able to survive for 800 years if they fought the Empire and the Empire knew of their existence. 2: The Rays knowing about the ET at any point before 219 BR is a direct contradiction of the lore, since like I said, they didn't know there was an eastern continent until Faerin told them about it. If you want, we could compromise and say that the ET began open warfare against the MRE in the year 20 BR. Any longer than that is a stretch of logic. it is named the colony,how many I have to say it!1.do you think it is logic that beasts from the deepsea overrule a entire continent(unless it is in the form of chili(the land)),and the colony is on a cliff,and have a really good defense.first,they seen grynix.second,they could think that the colony is from the inland.third,I keep naming you gross sumerian 1: Yes, because the chi evolution made them able to breath air. This was necessary for the plot to work in the first place. Chi evolution did NOT make the Rays completely mentally inept to the point that they'd never put two and two together and realize there's an eastern civilization over the course of an 800 year war. 2: If the Rays captured and interrogated at least ONE person from the colony (which they would, eventually, inevitably), they would've immediately learned about eastern civilization; even if it's 50 years into the war, they'd still capture an eagle or tiger who remembers his birthplace. 3: The Gryphons were a tiny colony on a remote island, with limited resources and no physical record proving the existence of the continent their ancestors came from (let alone the knowledge that their ancestors had been from a much larger civilization in the first place, as Galvanor was born 120 years after the crash); the Rays, as such, would have no way of knowing that Eagles, Lions, or any other sentient species even exist; they would've simply seen the Gryphons, a species native to a small island on the sea. 4: On top of the rest of point #3, the Empire's destruction of the Gryphons took place over less than a year; on the other hand, since your astonishingly well-defended ET would apparently last for eight centuries without being wiped out, the Rays would assuredly have more than enough time to capture and interrogate any number of eagles or tigers, as I said in point #2. 5: Speaking of the ET's allegedly incredible defenses, their HQ being built on a cliff makes just about no difference, since the Empire has competent aircraft... you know, the entire reason Galvanor was able to escape Gryphon Island in the first place? You seem to have read the timeline, yet you conveniently ignore parts of it that would make your faction any less invincible. As it stands, you seem to want an absolutely overpowered faction that changed the entire course of history, finishes battles in minutes, and cannot be defeated, and you get mad when we don't want to role-play with said faction, and when we even try to offer a compromise. You insulting me both proves my point, and doesn't help your case.
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Post by ridderthomas on Feb 11, 2022 6:19:36 GMT
it is named the colony,how many I have to say it!1.do you think it is logic that beasts from the deepsea overrule a entire continent(unless it is in the form of chili(the land)),and the colony is on a cliff,and have a really good defense.first,they seen grynix.second,they could think that the colony is from the inland.third,I keep naming you gross sumerian 1: Yes, because the chi evolution made them able to breath air. This was necessary for the plot to work in the first place. Chi evolution did NOT make the Rays completely mentally inept to the point that they'd never put two and two together and realize there's an eastern civilization over the course of an 800 year war. 2: If the Rays captured and interrogated at least ONE person from the colony (which they would, eventually, inevitably), they would've immediately learned about eastern civilization; even if it's 50 years into the war, they'd still capture an eagle or tiger who remembers his birthplace. 3: The Gryphons were a tiny colony on a remote island, with limited resources and no physical record proving the existence of the continent their ancestors came from (let alone the knowledge that their ancestors had been from a much larger civilization in the first place, as Galvanor was born 120 years after the crash); the Rays, as such, would have no way of knowing that Eagles, Lions, or any other sentient species even exist; they would've simply seen the Gryphons, a species native to a small island on the sea. 4: On top of the rest of point #3, the Empire's destruction of the Gryphons took place over less than a year; on the other hand, since your astonishingly well-defended ET would apparently last for eight centuries without being wiped out, the Rays would assuredly have more than enough time to capture and interrogate any number of eagles or tigers, as I said in point #2. 5: Speaking of the ET's allegedly incredible defenses, their HQ being built on a cliff makes just about no difference, since the Empire has competent aircraft... you know, the entire reason Galvanor was able to escape Gryphon Island in the first place? You seem to have read the timeline, yet you conveniently ignore parts of it that would make your faction any less invincible. As it stands, you seem to want an absolutely overpowered faction that changed the entire course of history, finishes battles in minutes, and cannot be defeated, and you get mad when we don't want to role-play with said faction, and when we even try to offer a compromise. You insulting me both proves my point, and doesn't help your case. 1.I mean that there is a old rule about contrlolable empires;if you can’t ride between the heart and the grense on a horse in two weeks,it is to big.the heart is in sea and a continent mostly have deserts and mountains and stuff like that,where it is hard to rise through 2.they could think the colonialists are from the inland,duh 3.why,they couldn’t see the colony that way 5.yes but ever heard about airdefense? 6.it isn’t incredible defensed,it only have a defense based on mountains in their back,like the greeks in the persian wars,the mre don’t fight with all their troops and the colony is in hard crossable terrain
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Post by ridderthomas on Feb 11, 2022 7:31:05 GMT
it is named the colony,how many I have to say it!1.do you think it is logic that beasts from the deepsea overrule a entire continent(unless it is in the form of chili(the land)),and the colony is on a cliff,and have a really good defense.first,they seen grynix.second,they could think that the colony is from the inland.third,I keep naming you gross sumerian 1: Yes, because the chi evolution made them able to breath air. This was necessary for the plot to work in the first place. Chi evolution did NOT make the Rays completely mentally inept to the point that they'd never put two and two together and realize there's an eastern civilization over the course of an 800 year war. 2: If the Rays captured and interrogated at least ONE person from the colony (which they would, eventually, inevitably), they would've immediately learned about eastern civilization; even if it's 50 years into the war, they'd still capture an eagle or tiger who remembers his birthplace. 3: The Gryphons were a tiny colony on a remote island, with limited resources and no physical record proving the existence of the continent their ancestors came from (let alone the knowledge that their ancestors had been from a much larger civilization in the first place, as Galvanor was born 120 years after the crash); the Rays, as such, would have no way of knowing that Eagles, Lions, or any other sentient species even exist; they would've simply seen the Gryphons, a species native to a small island on the sea. 4: On top of the rest of point #3, the Empire's destruction of the Gryphons took place over less than a year; on the other hand, since your astonishingly well-defended ET would apparently last for eight centuries without being wiped out, the Rays would assuredly have more than enough time to capture and interrogate any number of eagles or tigers, as I said in point #2. 5: Speaking of the ET's allegedly incredible defenses, their HQ being built on a cliff makes just about no difference, since the Empire has competent aircraft... you know, the entire reason Galvanor was able to escape Gryphon Island in the first place? You seem to have read the timeline, yet you conveniently ignore parts of it that would make your faction any less invincible. As it stands, you seem to want an absolutely overpowered faction that changed the entire course of history, finishes battles in minutes, and cannot be defeated, and you get mad when we don't want to role-play with said faction, and when we even try to offer a compromise. You insulting me both proves my point, and doesn't help your case. it isn’t a compromise.and I am angry,because you change my whole timeline,and say I do that to YOU,YOU are insulting ME by saying I want it OP,I don’t do that,I only say they could stay against the MRE,because they aren’t surprised by an attack(like the gryphons)and further with logistic reasons,maybe they have aircrafts,but the hollow mountains are still MOUNTAINS and thus good defendable.have you ever read a book about how to rule a empire,a whole continent with the heart of your empire in sea,is already almost impossible,but if on a outcorner there is a good defendable base in a group of mountains,the base could withstand if they aren’t surprised by an attack
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Post by The J on Feb 11, 2022 16:51:15 GMT
1: Yes, because the chi evolution made them able to breath air. This was necessary for the plot to work in the first place. Chi evolution did NOT make the Rays completely mentally inept to the point that they'd never put two and two together and realize there's an eastern civilization over the course of an 800 year war. 2: If the Rays captured and interrogated at least ONE person from the colony (which they would, eventually, inevitably), they would've immediately learned about eastern civilization; even if it's 50 years into the war, they'd still capture an eagle or tiger who remembers his birthplace. 3: The Gryphons were a tiny colony on a remote island, with limited resources and no physical record proving the existence of the continent their ancestors came from (let alone the knowledge that their ancestors had been from a much larger civilization in the first place, as Galvanor was born 120 years after the crash); the Rays, as such, would have no way of knowing that Eagles, Lions, or any other sentient species even exist; they would've simply seen the Gryphons, a species native to a small island on the sea. 4: On top of the rest of point #3, the Empire's destruction of the Gryphons took place over less than a year; on the other hand, since your astonishingly well-defended ET would apparently last for eight centuries without being wiped out, the Rays would assuredly have more than enough time to capture and interrogate any number of eagles or tigers, as I said in point #2. 5: Speaking of the ET's allegedly incredible defenses, their HQ being built on a cliff makes just about no difference, since the Empire has competent aircraft... you know, the entire reason Galvanor was able to escape Gryphon Island in the first place? You seem to have read the timeline, yet you conveniently ignore parts of it that would make your faction any less invincible. As it stands, you seem to want an absolutely overpowered faction that changed the entire course of history, finishes battles in minutes, and cannot be defeated, and you get mad when we don't want to role-play with said faction, and when we even try to offer a compromise. You insulting me both proves my point, and doesn't help your case. 1.I mean that there is a old rule about contrlolable empires;if you can’t ride between the heart and the grense on a horse in two weeks,it is to big.the heart is in sea and a continent mostly have deserts and mountains and stuff like that,where it is hard to rise through 2.they could think the colonialists are from the inland,duh 3.why,they couldn’t see the colony that way 5.yes but ever heard about airdefense? 6.it isn’t incredible defensed,it only have a defense based on mountains in their back,like the greeks in the persian wars,the mre don’t fight with all their troops and the colony is in hard crossable terrain 1: Well yes, but they would've developed land vehicles to make it easier to traverse over 1,000 years, like the tribes of Chima. 2/4: Oh, you meant the island. You were misspelling it as "inland", and I was confused, sorry. However, that doesn't change the interrogation thing. Unless the ET's leaders did some kind of collective hypnotism over everyone in the faction including themselves, the Rays would learn about the continent they came from by capturing anyone. Maybe they got some sort of amnesia as an anomalous aftereffect of living on that island in particular? 3: What do you mean? If you mean that they wouldn't have discovered the ET's colony for a long time, that's exactly the proposition I'd been trying to make. 5: Yes, but I've never heard of defenses of any kind that survive an 800 year war. I get what you're going for with the "ancient conflict" thing, but I think you're underestimating how absolutely massive that time frame actually is. 6: Yeah, but the Persians didn't have aircraft. The Chima RP has a "far future" technology level, which we'd voted for in mid to late 2017, so I've always figured that the technology level of the Chima TV show (jets, lasers, etc) was what they had 100+ years ago, especially with chi being a much easier power source to work with than our real-life power sources; plug a chi orb into a makeshift gun, and you'll get laser blasts out of it, no gunpowder required. It's already been established that the Rays had aircraft as early as 826 BR too. And an island would be surrounded by the sea, where the Rays have the advantage, by definition. If I may ask, why are you so fixated on having an eight-century-long war? You can still make your faction appear ancient and important if they were established 700+ years ago, and were building up in secret. In fact, from what I've seen, you can get the exact same lore, narrative, characters, and themes by having their open warfare with the MRE start 20 years ago; this also makes their defenses appear undoubtedly strong, which seems to be what you want, because 20 years in modern Chima without having their walls breached is both impressive, and a reasonable time frame.
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Post by ridderthomas on Feb 11, 2022 17:26:20 GMT
1.I mean that there is a old rule about contrlolable empires;if you can’t ride between the heart and the grense on a horse in two weeks,it is to big.the heart is in sea and a continent mostly have deserts and mountains and stuff like that,where it is hard to rise through 2.they could think the colonialists are from the inland,duh 3.why,they couldn’t see the colony that way 5.yes but ever heard about airdefense? 6.it isn’t incredible defensed,it only have a defense based on mountains in their back,like the greeks in the persian wars,the mre don’t fight with all their troops and the colony is in hard crossable terrain 1: Well yes, but they would've developed land vehicles to make it easier to traverse over 1,000 years, like the tribes of Chima. 2/4: Oh, you meant the island. You were misspelling it as "inland", and I was confused, sorry. However, that doesn't change the interrogation thing. Unless the ET's leaders did some kind of collective hypnotism over everyone in the faction including themselves, the Rays would learn about the continent they came from by capturing anyone. Maybe they got some sort of amnesia as an anomalous aftereffect of living on that island in particular? 3: What do you mean? If you mean that they wouldn't have discovered the ET's colony for a long time, that's exactly the proposition I'd been trying to make. 5: Yes, but I've never heard of defenses of any kind that survive an 800 year war. I get what you're going for with the "ancient conflict" thing, but I think you're underestimating how absolutely massive that time frame actually is. 6: Yeah, but the Persians didn't have aircraft. The Chima RP has a "far future" technology level, which we'd voted for in mid to late 2017, so I've always figured that the technology level of the Chima TV show (jets, lasers, etc) was what they had 100+ years ago, especially with chi being a much easier power source to work with than our real-life power sources; plug a chi orb into a makeshift gun, and you'll get laser blasts out of it, no gunpowder required. It's already been established that the Rays had aircraft as early as 826 BR too. And an island would be surrounded by the sea, where the Rays have the advantage, by definition. If I may ask, why are you so fixated on having an eight-century-long war? You can still make your faction appear ancient and important if they were established 700+ years ago, and were building up in secret. In fact, from what I've seen, you can get the exact same lore, narrative, characters, and themes by having their open warfare with the MRE start 20 years ago; this also makes their defenses appear undoubtedly strong, which seems to be what you want, because 20 years in modern Chima without having their walls breached is both impressive, and a reasonable time frame. 1.yes but they still didn’t are able to control the whole colony for a long while,because range 2/4.no I meant inland,maybe the MRE hadn’t discovered the whole inland,on the time the colony started,and when they ruled the whole further continent,they thought the colonist where migrants from the inland that moved to the coast 3.I mean,why they couldn’t see the colony as a apart tribe. 5.there weren’t no times of peace,let we say the fought six wars all around the hundred years,they had each time thirtythree years to rebuilt the defenses,I don’t say the colony kept being sieged for the whole time or anything,I sayed they weren’t overruled,they also fought on other fronts.and I think if tyrus could be sieged for 13 years,the colony could stand in a few wars on a few fronts 6.yes,but I mean also with aircrafts is a mountained terrain hard to conquer and especially to control,and I mean also that the MRE didn’t spend his whole army to the war,only a little part
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Post by The J on Feb 12, 2022 16:55:29 GMT
1: Well yes, but they would've developed land vehicles to make it easier to traverse over 1,000 years, like the tribes of Chima. 2/4: Oh, you meant the island. You were misspelling it as "inland", and I was confused, sorry. However, that doesn't change the interrogation thing. Unless the ET's leaders did some kind of collective hypnotism over everyone in the faction including themselves, the Rays would learn about the continent they came from by capturing anyone. Maybe they got some sort of amnesia as an anomalous aftereffect of living on that island in particular? 3: What do you mean? If you mean that they wouldn't have discovered the ET's colony for a long time, that's exactly the proposition I'd been trying to make. 5: Yes, but I've never heard of defenses of any kind that survive an 800 year war. I get what you're going for with the "ancient conflict" thing, but I think you're underestimating how absolutely massive that time frame actually is. 6: Yeah, but the Persians didn't have aircraft. The Chima RP has a "far future" technology level, which we'd voted for in mid to late 2017, so I've always figured that the technology level of the Chima TV show (jets, lasers, etc) was what they had 100+ years ago, especially with chi being a much easier power source to work with than our real-life power sources; plug a chi orb into a makeshift gun, and you'll get laser blasts out of it, no gunpowder required. It's already been established that the Rays had aircraft as early as 826 BR too. And an island would be surrounded by the sea, where the Rays have the advantage, by definition. If I may ask, why are you so fixated on having an eight-century-long war? You can still make your faction appear ancient and important if they were established 700+ years ago, and were building up in secret. In fact, from what I've seen, you can get the exact same lore, narrative, characters, and themes by having their open warfare with the MRE start 20 years ago; this also makes their defenses appear undoubtedly strong, which seems to be what you want, because 20 years in modern Chima without having their walls breached is both impressive, and a reasonable time frame. 1.yes but they still didn’t are able to control the whole colony for a long while,because range 2/4.no I meant inland,maybe the MRE hadn’t discovered the whole inland,on the time the colony started,and when they ruled the whole further continent,they thought the colonist where migrants from the inland that moved to the coast 3.I mean,why they couldn’t see the colony as a apart tribe. 5.there weren’t no times of peace,let we say the fought six wars all around the hundred years,they had each time thirtythree years to rebuilt the defenses,I don’t say the colony kept being sieged for the whole time or anything,I sayed they weren’t overruled,they also fought on other fronts.and I think if tyrus could be sieged for 13 years,the colony could stand in a few wars on a few fronts 6.yes,but I mean also with aircrafts is a mountained terrain hard to conquer and especially to control,and I mean also that the MRE didn’t spend his whole army to the war,only a little part 1. The Rays got control of Forneus because they were the only species there, so I imagine it's a pretty barren, lifeless place aside from rivers from the sea flowing through it. 2/4: Oh, true, that could be the case. But even still, the interrogation dilemma; the Rays would learn that a whole different continent exists with its own civilizations, which, again, they didn't learn about until Faerin told them in 219 BR. I think for this to work, we're gonna have to say the Eagles and Tunnel Cats all collectively lost their memories upon arriving at their island chain. Maybe it caused them to forget Chima, but not Galvanor and his island? Or they used a collective self-hypnosis to forget everything other than the Gryphons, in a cult-like fashion? They would of course have their memories of the east restored upon returning here, and that would also explain their absence. 3: The Rays would see them as island natives at first, but unlike the Gryphons (who were undiscovered by the Rays for 133 years), you implied that the ET went to war with the Empire within its first generation, which means (sorry for repeating this like a broken record) the interrogation dilemma still exists, since there'd be people there who remember their home continent. Well, I guess refer to my proposition above. 5/6: So there were large spaces of time in which they were at an uneasy peace like any other pair of tribes, and they had many brief wars over time that always ended with negotiation due to the old Manta Royal Family's softness, both sides' technologically impressive defenses for their time, and the ET's understandable inability to destroy the whole of the Empire? Yes, that does work well. I guess really the only problem is the memory thing. If there was a way for none of the Eagles or Tigers of the colony to remember the continent of Chima (or if they'd crash-landed and lost physical records of their roots before being discovered by the Rays 133 years later, like the Gryphons), then there'd be no plot holes.
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Ah chaos, what nothing more than to sit back, grab the popcorn and watch the fireworks happen, eh? No matter, still siding with J here, even though im like have zero attention span on this happening right now.
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Post by The J on Feb 14, 2022 19:33:04 GMT
Ah chaos, what nothing more than to sit back, grab the popcorn and watch the fireworks happen, eh? No matter, still siding with J here, even though im like have zero attention span on this happening right now. Basically a backstory for one faction contradicting literally everything else, and difficulties in trying to compromise.
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Post by TheFirstDecade on Feb 15, 2022 22:16:09 GMT
Ah chaos, what nothing more than to sit back, grab the popcorn and watch the fireworks happen, eh? No matter, still siding with J here, even though im like have zero attention span on this happening right now. Basically a backstory for one faction contradicting literally everything else, and difficulties in trying to compromise. Ah i get it now!
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1.yes but they still didn’t are able to control the whole colony for a long while,because range 2/4.no I meant inland,maybe the MRE hadn’t discovered the whole inland,on the time the colony started,and when they ruled the whole further continent,they thought the colonist where migrants from the inland that moved to the coast 3.I mean,why they couldn’t see the colony as a apart tribe. 5.there weren’t no times of peace,let we say the fought six wars all around the hundred years,they had each time thirtythree years to rebuilt the defenses,I don’t say the colony kept being sieged for the whole time or anything,I sayed they weren’t overruled,they also fought on other fronts.and I think if tyrus could be sieged for 13 years,the colony could stand in a few wars on a few fronts 6.yes,but I mean also with aircrafts is a mountained terrain hard to conquer and especially to control,and I mean also that the MRE didn’t spend his whole army to the war,only a little part 1. The Rays got control of Forneus because they were the only species there, so I imagine it's a pretty barren, lifeless place aside from rivers from the sea flowing through it. 2/4: Oh, true, that could be the case. But even still, the interrogation dilemma; the Rays would learn that a whole different continent exists with its own civilizations, which, again, they didn't learn about until Faerin told them in 219 BR. I think for this to work, we're gonna have to say the Eagles and Tunnel Cats all collectively lost their memories upon arriving at their island chain. Maybe it caused them to forget Chima, but not Galvanor and his island? Or they used a collective self-hypnosis to forget everything other than the Gryphons, in a cult-like fashion? They would of course have their memories of the east restored upon returning here, and that would also explain their absence. 3: The Rays would see them as island natives at first, but unlike the Gryphons (who were undiscovered by the Rays for 133 years), you implied that the ET went to war with the Empire within its first generation, which means (sorry for repeating this like a broken record) the interrogation dilemma still exists, since there'd be people there who remember their home continent. Well, I guess refer to my proposition above. 5/6: So there were large spaces of time in which they were at an uneasy peace like any other pair of tribes, and they had many brief wars over time that always ended with negotiation due to the old Manta Royal Family's softness, both sides' technologically impressive defenses for their time, and the ET's understandable inability to destroy the whole of the Empire? Yes, that does work well. I guess really the only problem is the memory thing. If there was a way for none of the Eagles or Tigers of the colony to remember the continent of Chima (or if they'd crash-landed and lost physical records of their roots before being discovered by the Rays 133 years later, like the Gryphons), then there'd be no plot holes. (Posting from my mom's account and with her help, see the Newbie Training Topic for an explanation). Let's say in the first one hundred years only had an assissting role in the army, like making and reparing weapons and vehicles. After that time Chima would be a myth like Terra Australis (a hypothetical continent first posited in antiquity and which appeared on maps between the 15th and 18th centuries, as per Wikipedia)..
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Post by The J on Mar 5, 2022 0:43:51 GMT
1. The Rays got control of Forneus because they were the only species there, so I imagine it's a pretty barren, lifeless place aside from rivers from the sea flowing through it. 2/4: Oh, true, that could be the case. But even still, the interrogation dilemma; the Rays would learn that a whole different continent exists with its own civilizations, which, again, they didn't learn about until Faerin told them in 219 BR. I think for this to work, we're gonna have to say the Eagles and Tunnel Cats all collectively lost their memories upon arriving at their island chain. Maybe it caused them to forget Chima, but not Galvanor and his island? Or they used a collective self-hypnosis to forget everything other than the Gryphons, in a cult-like fashion? They would of course have their memories of the east restored upon returning here, and that would also explain their absence. 3: The Rays would see them as island natives at first, but unlike the Gryphons (who were undiscovered by the Rays for 133 years), you implied that the ET went to war with the Empire within its first generation, which means (sorry for repeating this like a broken record) the interrogation dilemma still exists, since there'd be people there who remember their home continent. Well, I guess refer to my proposition above. 5/6: So there were large spaces of time in which they were at an uneasy peace like any other pair of tribes, and they had many brief wars over time that always ended with negotiation due to the old Manta Royal Family's softness, both sides' technologically impressive defenses for their time, and the ET's understandable inability to destroy the whole of the Empire? Yes, that does work well. I guess really the only problem is the memory thing. If there was a way for none of the Eagles or Tigers of the colony to remember the continent of Chima (or if they'd crash-landed and lost physical records of their roots before being discovered by the Rays 133 years later, like the Gryphons), then there'd be no plot holes. (Posting from my mom's account and with her help, see the Newbie Training Topic for an explanation). Let's say in the first one hundred years only had an assissting role in the army, like making and reparing weapons and vehicles. After that time Chima would be a myth like Terra Australis (a hypothetical continent first posited in antiquity and which appeared on maps between the 15th and 18th centuries, as per Wikipedia).. So their early history would be similar to the Gryphons, minus getting stuck on one island? That does work, yeah.
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Post by ladymargaret on Mar 25, 2023 6:36:19 GMT
(already posted) HISTORY: when galvanor washed ashore, some eagles, with the support of the tunnel cats, went in search of survivors. she also ran aground. three months later, another plane stranded with birds leaping from it. their leader introduced himself as prince felix of the frigate birds. the expedition members helped felix and out of gratitude he appointed tigers commander in chief and created an advisory board solely for eagles. after a while, the settlers intercepted radio conversation from chima. they decided to warn chima during the manta expansion wave. BASE: the colony consists of a mountain on a high cliff and three islands. the lower half consists of tiger-style mountain apartments. the upper half is a copy of the eaglespire. the islands are harbor bases. RANKS: administrative: king(1x,open) council leader(1x,open) assistant council leader(8x,open) co-governor(7x,open.1 for tilas/me) assistant co-governor(8x,open) military: guard commander(tilas/i) main tunnel cat(tilas/i) co-commander in chief(1x,open+tilas/i) general(5x)guard sergeant(2x)tunnel cat sergeant(2x) colonel(8x) sergeant(20x)guardlid(25x)tunnel cat(34x,1 for lyranos/I) soldier(infinite)pilot(infinite) further: supreme diplomat (elina/I) chief diplomat(3x) diplomat(10x) citizen(infinite) join the ET and fight the MRE everyone please take one of the open places
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Post by The J on Mar 25, 2023 21:17:47 GMT
(already posted) HISTORY: when galvanor washed ashore, some eagles, with the support of the tunnel cats, went in search of survivors. she also ran aground. three months later, another plane stranded with birds leaping from it. their leader introduced himself as prince felix of the frigate birds. the expedition members helped felix and out of gratitude he appointed tigers commander in chief and created an advisory board solely for eagles. after a while, the settlers intercepted radio conversation from chima. they decided to warn chima during the manta expansion wave. BASE: the colony consists of a mountain on a high cliff and three islands. the lower half consists of tiger-style mountain apartments. the upper half is a copy of the eaglespire. the islands are harbor bases. RANKS: administrative: king(1x,open) council leader(1x,open) assistant council leader(8x,open) co-governor(7x,open.1 for tilas/me) assistant co-governor(8x,open) military: guard commander(tilas/i) main tunnel cat(tilas/i) co-commander in chief(1x,open+tilas/i) general(5x)guard sergeant(2x)tunnel cat sergeant(2x) colonel(8x) sergeant(20x)guardlid(25x)tunnel cat(34x,1 for lyranos/I) soldier(infinite)pilot(infinite) further: supreme diplomat (elina/I) chief diplomat(3x) diplomat(10x) citizen(infinite) join the ET and fight the MRE everyone please take one of the open places I had this idea a while back, so I guess I'll do this now. Great timing too, since I'm literally just about to introduce this character in my story. Name: Vergere (pronounced ver-sheer) Species: Vulture Gender: Female Age: (TBD) Affiliation: Vultures, Eagle Triumvirate Rank: Chief Diplomat Weapons and Gear: Dual silver swords that are both slightly shorter than the average sword to make them more lightweight, and at least one small chi blaster pistol hidden somewhere in her clothes. Appearance: Standard vulture appearance with gray wings and a bald, light blue head (like the Vultrix minifigure). She wears a silver chi harness with the lighter variant of shoulder-pads, black pants with many pockets, and a plain, inconspicuous sleeveless gray tunic. She's probably also wearing a necklace or badge with the ET's insignia now. Personality: Vergere seems to act very "casual" and laid-back, but she's serious when she needs to be. Her charisma has made her well-liked among her ET peers. Backstory: Vergere was a young adult when Vamprah began to rebuild the scattered and then-endangered Vulture Tribe over 140 years ago, and she played a large role in the Restoration. Among other things, Vergere co-founded and led the VSI (Vulture Special Intelligence) division, training Vultures as spies in addition to being one herself. She also became a fully-trained witch at some point (I think you'd mentioned one of your characters being a wizard, so Vergere also could've trained him or her at the time of the RP). Like the other Vultures, Vergere was exiled to the Arctic by Leodus at the end of the Vulture-Leopard War in 122 BR, transformed into an "ice zombie" state. And like the other Ice Hunter mages specifically, she was completely frozen to prevent her from breaking the curse. She remained that way for the next 121 years, until the Ice Hunters were finally freed from their confinement at the time of the RP. Rather than joining in the invasion of the south, Vergere immediately volunteered to recover whatever remained of the Vulture Fleet (a once-powerful naval force that'd been destroyed by the Leopards during the war). Vamprah permitted it, and Vergere flew over the West Sea. However, she was allegedly found and captured by the Manta Ray Empire in the process. The Rays managed to suppress (and remove) her ice powers by plugging their fire chi into her harness, also reversing Vergere's zombie transformation. According to Vergere, she eventually managed to escape from the MRE, and discovered the ET on her way back to Chima. Joining the faction and later learning about what'd happened on Chima's mainland while she was away, Vergere now claims that she wants to ally the Vultures with the ET (though she seems opposed to her former tribe's newfound alliance with the Leopards, explaining why Vergere herself has fully joined the ET). Having been born on the mainland, Vergere acts as an important intermediary between the east and west in the interest of fighting the Empire.
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