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Jun 21, 2018 21:11:35 GMT
Post by Essa Kryze on Jun 21, 2018 21:11:35 GMT
CONt.
By the fourth age, as I have stated previously, the elves are few in number and far between. So I'm thinking we focus on the elves of the mirkwood area, the ones who I assume were previously poisoned by the dark magic. What if the sickness makes them sick to begin with, but then it also causes them to age normally? I'm thinking that one of the heroes is held hostage by the dark Lord/Lady and Elessar doesn't contact them but part of their party, lead by one of the wizards, gives hunt to the darkness and that is what leads them to the great battle. But while so doing their counter parts, lead by the wizard who is trying to redeem his name after the book escapade, Are going in another direction entirely seeking the help of a dragon, possibly an easterdragon? Because in the east dragons are revered rather than feared.
What if, as a gift to the bravest of our little troupe fellowship, the easterdragon lets them keep a tooth from the skeleton of the venemous wurm they had to work as a team to defeat in order to gain the dragon't fealty? The venom having no cure and being the most lethal substance known to man. Then, in a final attempt to destroy the otherwise indestructable book, said bravest little fellow drives the tooth into it.
What specific region were you thinking the easterdragon to be from? Because there is a stretch of mountains somewhere that I forgot the exact postion of, titled the breeding place of the dragons. I'm going to go look rn.
That's a cool idea. 
Extra thoughts I had.
First off what was the final CONsensus of having balrogs in?
Waiting on the rest of the characters, which is totally fine, but may or may not limit our in depth plot and setting discussions.
Will we want Oliphaunts?
I think that's all rn.
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Jun 21, 2018 21:12:36 GMT
Post by Essa Kryze on Jun 21, 2018 21:12:36 GMT
whatever this is, I'm here.  
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Jun 21, 2018 21:23:55 GMT
Post by Lolli on Jun 21, 2018 21:23:55 GMT
"Wise words by wise men write wise deeds in wise pen."
—Lollimon the Wise
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Jun 23, 2018 16:27:21 GMT
Post by Qui on Jun 23, 2018 16:27:21 GMT
whatever this is, I'm here. sure!
I haz my MB sig!
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Jun 23, 2018 18:04:08 GMT
-last edited on Jun 23, 2018 18:04:18 GMT by Essa Kryze
Post by Essa Kryze on Jun 23, 2018 18:04:08 GMT
Tis a co-write. Do you wish to join? If so I have to ask the others. sure!
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Post by RomeNZ on Jun 24, 2018 2:48:03 GMT
Well, it doesn't matter. I'm taking creative licence anyway. />:-)
{JAMMERS! -Essa & Lolli - ONLY!}
OK here’s my plot idea:
Before the destruction of the the Ring, one of the Nine Nazgul achieved a degree of potentcy in sorcery. This was discovered by Sauron and the Nazgul proceeded to explain a backup plan should Sauron ever be destroyed, but the Dark Lord rejected this idea, of course wanting personal dominion of Middle-Earth. The Nazgul was set to be smashed, so carried out his plan of ridding himself of his ties to Sauron and making his immortal life force his own.
The destruction of the Ring soon followed, and this Nazgul escaped demise.
During the peaceful years that followed the Nazgul secretly built his magic and power with the remaining forces of Orcs, hiding away in the depths of Mordor’s underground mountain caves. When the time comes he strikes; not openly, but insidiously, sending the stealthiest Orc spies to gather information and poison food sources with a new, seemingly incurable ailment which first affects the elven population.
This then draws the attention of our elven heroes, who seek the council of their human allies to send aid. The disease perplexes our heroes, who then utilise their wit to discern the origin of the sickness and capture an Orc spy. They interrogate the Orc, to no avail, and then form a cunning plan to stage an escape for him to lead the heroes to the enemy headquarters.
This unfolds as planned, and they then learn of the Nazgul’s plan to ride north to obtain the Spellbook of Aganduar, a powerful artifact which contains the spells the Nazgul needs to become more powerful than any spellcaster in Middle-Earth.
They then learn of the new threat to the world, (that being the New Dark Lord Nazgul dude,) and then go about gathering the finest warriors from each race forming our fellowship band of heroes.
They ride out to stop him before he reaches Agandaur’s old haunt, to then find that a fair ways away from their homeland an elven messenger brings news that a mighty force of Orcs was sent to wipe out the Elves. The heroes debate whether to return and help the Elves, but decide that the Nazgul was the greater threat and send the messenger to get help from the Rohirrim at Rohan.
Our heroes catch up to the Nazgul, only to find him accompanied by a guard of his most powerful Orcs, with the higher level brutes being strengthened by dark spells. A fierce battle ensues and the heroes barely win, resulting in the Nazgul escaping with half his Orc force and some heroes badly wounded.
They rest and recover, and then press on to reach the fortress only to find that they’re too late, and the Nazgul has accomplished his mission, leaving a dark spell snare which turns some of our heroes against their comrades.
(Yo Essa ) This is where the Blue Wizards come in and free the corrupted heroes of the dark spell, and then explain that they were there to find the Spellbook of Agandaur before the Nazgul, but were caught off guard and defeated.
After they rest and recover, one of the Wizards is contacted by King Elessar via Palantir, calling for help against Orc forces led by the Nazgul now assaulting Gondor. The weary heroes reluctantly agree, before their spirits are lifted by the Wizards telling of chance that they seek the aid of a dragon.
They then travel to find one of the last dragons who demands that they perofrm a task to win his allegience, to which they do, and then ride the dragon back to their homeland in its most desperate hour to the climactic battle against the Nazgul and his army.
The new Dark Lord is now very poweful, and the Blue Wizards say that the only way to weaken him is to destroy the Spellbook; the source his new power.
And I think we can imagine how this goes.
Summary: We need to change one character, followed by some possible ideas for the plot.
I love the idea, but canonically elves can't get sick. So it will have to be some pretty potent magic that is able to emulate sickness in beings who otherwise can't get sick. This shouldn't be hard for a freed nazgul. Which brings me to my second little point here, the Nazgul weren't capable of disobeying Sauron and were destroyed when their life support system (sauron) went kaput. But there's nothing saying that another one of Melkor's loyal servants (As Sauron was recorded as being most rather than last loyal to his master's memory.) Awakens at the fall of Sauron and it takes them up till now in the fourth age to gather the disabiguated orcish armies
The blue wizards are trickey, in one of his letters Tolkien supposed that they had founded the magic-cult religions of the easterlings. The question is why are they fighting for good now? At first I read them being a cheap plot device, but what if one of them was corrupted in such a way that he convinced the other that the book had to be in "good hands" soon based on disturbing dreams about this new threat to middle earth they had both had? Harmless right? Wrong. His real intentions are to get the book for personal gain. If he had the book then he'd be super powerful, disarming even the other maiar wouldn't be a problem. But then something stops him and he realizes how evil his plan was and is ashamed of himself or something. It would make for a great side plot to distract the readers into thinking that he is the ancient evil thingamy.
CONt.
You and Essa Kryze can feel free to add to/take away/rework/scrap the plot idea as you please.
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Post by RomeNZ on Jun 24, 2018 2:50:02 GMT
CONt.
By the fourth age, as I have stated previously, the elves are few in number and far between. So I'm thinking we focus on the elves of the mirkwood area, the ones who I assume were previously poisoned by the dark magic. What if the sickness makes them sick to begin with, but then it also causes them to age normally? I'm thinking that one of the heroes is held hostage by the dark Lord/Lady and Elessar doesn't contact them but part of their party, lead by one of the wizards, gives hunt to the darkness and that is what leads them to the great battle. But while so doing their counter parts, lead by the wizard who is trying to redeem his name after the book escapade, Are going in another direction entirely seeking the help of a dragon, possibly an easterdragon? Because in the east dragons are revered rather than feared.
What if, as a gift to the bravest of our little troupe fellowship, the easterdragon lets them keep a tooth from the skeleton of the venemous wurm they had to work as a team to defeat in order to gain the dragon't fealty? The venom having no cure and being the most lethal substance known to man. Then, in a final attempt to destroy the otherwise indestructable book, said bravest little fellow drives the tooth into it.
What specific region were you thinking the easterdragon to be from? Because there is a stretch of mountains somewhere that I forgot the exact postion of, titled the breeding place of the dragons. I'm going to go look rn.
That's a cool idea. 
Extra thoughts I had.
First off what was the final CONsensus of having balrogs in?
Waiting on the rest of the characters, which is totally fine, but may or may not limit our in depth plot and setting discussions.
Will we want Oliphaunts?
I think that's all rn. Bullfrog Blarog or two would be cool.
Yes! Oliphaunts! (^v^)
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Post by RomeNZ on Jun 24, 2018 2:50:47 GMT
Yeah, I'm cool with that. ![[y]](http://storage.proboards.com/6672327/images/WYWPH2VRo26pOFDid7QZ.png) The more the Merry-er!
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Jun 24, 2018 15:52:57 GMT
Post by Essa Kryze on Jun 24, 2018 15:52:57 GMT
Summary: We need to change one character, followed by some possible ideas for the plot.
I love the idea, but canonically elves can't get sick. So it will have to be some pretty potent magic that is able to emulate sickness in beings who otherwise can't get sick. This shouldn't be hard for a freed nazgul. Which brings me to my second little point here, the Nazgul weren't capable of disobeying Sauron and were destroyed when their life support system (sauron) went kaput. But there's nothing saying that another one of Melkor's loyal servants (As Sauron was recorded as being most rather than last loyal to his master's memory.) Awakens at the fall of Sauron and it takes them up till now in the fourth age to gather the disabiguated orcish armies
The blue wizards are trickey, in one of his letters Tolkien supposed that they had founded the magic-cult religions of the easterlings. The question is why are they fighting for good now? At first I read them being a cheap plot device, but what if one of them was corrupted in such a way that he convinced the other that the book had to be in "good hands" soon based on disturbing dreams about this new threat to middle earth they had both had? Harmless right? Wrong. His real intentions are to get the book for personal gain. If he had the book then he'd be super powerful, disarming even the other maiar wouldn't be a problem. But then something stops him and he realizes how evil his plan was and is ashamed of himself or something. It would make for a great side plot to distract the readers into thinking that he is the ancient evil thingamy.
CONt.
You and Essa Kryze can feel free to add to/take away/rework/scrap the plot idea as you please.
It is very workable. I think some of the main elements will remain with only a few revamping/tweaks. At least that's what I'm seeing the feedback as so far.
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Jun 24, 2018 15:55:45 GMT
Post by Essa Kryze on Jun 24, 2018 15:55:45 GMT
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Jun 24, 2018 15:56:46 GMT
Post by Essa Kryze on Jun 24, 2018 15:56:46 GMT
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Jun 24, 2018 16:06:26 GMT
Post by Lolli on Jun 24, 2018 16:06:26 GMT
I don't see why not.
"Wise words by wise men write wise deeds in wise pen."
—Lollimon the Wise
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Jun 24, 2018 16:23:20 GMT
Post by Lolli on Jun 24, 2018 16:23:20 GMT
Summary: We need to change one character, followed by some possible ideas for the plot.
I love the idea, but canonically elves can't get sick. So it will have to be some pretty potent magic that is able to emulate sickness in beings who otherwise can't get sick. This shouldn't be hard for a freed nazgul. Which brings me to my second little point here, the Nazgul weren't capable of disobeying Sauron and were destroyed when their life support system (sauron) went kaput. But there's nothing saying that another one of Melkor's loyal servants (As Sauron was recorded as being most rather than last loyal to his master's memory.) Awakens at the fall of Sauron and it takes them up till now in the fourth age to gather the disabiguated orcish armies
The blue wizards are trickey, in one of his letters Tolkien supposed that they had founded the magic-cult religions of the easterlings. The question is why are they fighting for good now? At first I read them being a cheap plot device, but what if one of them was corrupted in such a way that he convinced the other that the book had to be in "good hands" soon based on disturbing dreams about this new threat to middle earth they had both had? Harmless right? Wrong. His real intentions are to get the book for personal gain. If he had the book then he'd be super powerful, disarming even the other maiar wouldn't be a problem. But then something stops him and he realizes how evil his plan was and is ashamed of himself or something. It would make for a great side plot to distract the readers into thinking that he is the ancient evil thingamy.
CONt.
You and Essa Kryze can feel free to add to/take away/rework/scrap the plot idea as you please.It's not lore, it's CONon.
I already voiced possible changes.![[derp]](http://storage.proboards.com/6672327/images/YqNTPqyQUocVMYXZgUAI.png)
"Wise words by wise men write wise deeds in wise pen."
—Lollimon the Wise
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Jun 24, 2018 16:37:27 GMT
Post by Essa Kryze on Jun 24, 2018 16:37:27 GMT
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Post by RomeNZ on Jun 25, 2018 7:09:09 GMT
As stated, I'm taking creative licence, which means adaption and/or even breaking of the lore, which I already have limited knowledge of.
You and Essa Kryze can feel free to add to/take away/rework/scrap the plot idea as you please. 
It is very workable. I think some of the main elements will remain with only a few revamping/tweaks. At least that's what I'm seeing the feedback as so far.
OK.
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