You know what else doesn't fit with what we've seen in Chima canon? A giant missile being launch at MACH 2 with the power to destroy an entire island without even hitting it directly. Plasma weaponry of all things, which while you may not like it (at this time, since you implied it'll be fine after the fire vs ice plot thing you're bent on), the RP Rep himself is totally okay with it. Even so-called Chi magic isn't as believable as you say it is, considering we've only ever seen it manipulate its users itself, and have never seen it being manipulated by the users.
Furthermore, it's not necessarily supposed to fit in with Chima canon anyway. As discussed in his profile, the magic armor was left for him by an otherworldly entity, so it's already originally intended to be unlike anything else in Chima. I was originally gonna leave Jai without the armor, but then I realized he's going to need it to survive in this crazy world.
Can we have a little bit of consistency around here, please?
Could you direct me to the post containing this missile? I clearly missed it. Thanks.
In Chima canon, Chi orbs are manipulated by blaster to create bolt. The magic is essentially the same thing, with a different thing doing the manipulating.
That otherworldly entity will require FAC approval. It's possible to survive without magic armour; the rest of the RP gets along.
Page 29 in the West Sea, and the missile was launched by none other than this RP's Rep.
Citation needed. Chi is only used to power technology in canon. Nowhere is it mentioned that it provides the ammo, too.
I don't need FAC approval for something that isn't in this RP.
You're gonna have to give me some better reasons to not let me have something that I've always had.
Shamrock, I saw you liked the post on limiting Capital ships, but the FAC has not reached a conclusion or progressed on this topic, can you comment your thoughts on the situation?
It was never my intent to null chi, just all magical manipulation of it. I view chi as nothing more then a complex power source. It would only null magical manipulation of chi. Vehicles, Weapons, and the whole turn into an Ultrabuild thing would be unaffected. Also YJF has said that his characters are exempt cause only their magic can take out their magic. Firstly I would like to ask if this has made it past the FAC. Secondly I would like to state that this device makes it so all magical manipulation of chi ceases to work. All of it. No exceptions.
Neither is half the things that are here. You guys just said we could have plasma weapons for crying out loud. Plasma can be way more powerful and abusive then this. I would say it was made by the Pheonix and left behind when they ascended. Ok, well then let's say it's made of a very very strong material. Like Steel. Yea, I can live with that.
The thing is, it doesn't make sense for it to be able to null one manipulation of Chi, but not the rest. No, that hasn't been through the FAC.
We just rejected plasma weapon for the immediate future.
The Phoenix were lifted into the sky at the same second as Chi was created. If they did manage to make this, how did it end up where it is? Good.
Regarding plasma weaponry, there was no "we". Only you. Seems to be a common recurrence around here.
And yet the manipulation of Chi to form "magic" is totally okay. Mother of Primus...
There's a big difference between doing something similar to things we've seen and nulling a force capable of pulling mountains into the sky.
The only one here who seems to really, really want it to null all of Chi is you. He says it nulls the magical manipulation of Chi, which is a very specific alteration of the substance. You're applying rules that he never stated.
Either you go all the way with this Chi magic, or you don't. There shouldn't be this ultra-complex niche of what works and what doesn't according to your inconsistent opinions.
All right, so as FelipeDutraShamrock and all the others users remember, we have had issues in the past with tech, at one point this rp was not very active and most users wanted to quit, and some did, due to the unregulated nature of tech, and unless we want another great big quitage I suggest we figure out something, on what power magic has, now if we remember the rules of the Fanon here it says No magic allowed, since we decided to introduce magic we need to start thinking what counts and what doesn't.
It seems to me that the introduction of magic is the source of most, if not all debate here. While I actually support the presence of magic in this RP way more than the presence of ultra-advanced tech, the rules for it need to be simplified and set in stone while not being too restrictive.
I think that should start with the discussion on whether or not Chi and magic should be fundamentally dependent on each other. On one hand, I think it makes sense for Chi users to have this sort of ability within them, and for those who don't use Chi to not have this ability. On the other hand, it gets complicated when deciding what kinds of magical feats should be allowed. We've seen what the most powerful Chi can do in the canon via the Great Illumination; it can change the world and the way it works. We obviously don't want individuals running around with that kind of power. Small things, such as conjuration, illusions, invisibility, etc. are much more desirable, provided there is some sort of balancing consequence to these sorts of spells. Additionally, we could make a comprehensive list of what spells are allowed.
And yet the manipulation of Chi to form "magic" is totally okay. Mother of Primus...
There's a difference between using a magical resource to use magic and negating all forms of magic.
Indeed there is. Part of offensive and defensive magic would be the casting of Chi energy back outside oneself, yes? That's what the amulet is preventing. It's not nulling Chi, only your ability to manipulate it to your will. That's what I took from it, anyway.
All right, so as FelipeDutraShamrock and all the others users remember, we have had issues in the past with tech, at one point this rp was not very active and most users wanted to quit, and some did, due to the unregulated nature of tech, and unless we want another great big quitage I suggest we figure out something, on what power magic has, now if we remember the rules of the Fanon here it says No magic allowed, since we decided to introduce magic we need to start thinking what counts and what doesn't.
I would suggest sticking with magic similar to what YJF submitted - the manipulation of Chi to create laser blasts and energy shields. We can allow variations of this, but magic should remain centred around Chi.
All right, so as FelipeDutraShamrock and all the others users remember, we have had issues in the past with tech, at one point this rp was not very active and most users wanted to quit, and some did, due to the unregulated nature of tech, and unless we want another great big quitage I suggest we figure out something, on what power magic has, now if we remember the rules of the Fanon here it says No magic allowed, since we decided to introduce magic we need to start thinking what counts and what doesn't.
I would suggest sticking with magic similar to what YJF submitted - the manipulation of Chi to create laser blasts and energy shields. We can allow variations of this, but magic should remain centred around Chi.
Ah, only laser blasts and energy shields? Well that hardly raises the need for things like tomes and titles like "witch", as those imply a variety of different sorts of magical powers. Simply allowing laser blasts and energy shields is actually far more desirable than borderline superpower spells, as it keeps it simple while making it so that those who practice that power just don't need to carry weapons and shields on them.
It looks like I've overreacted, as the use of words like tomes and witches made me think full-on magic was going to be practiced. My bad.
You can keep saying, but that isn't how this device works. All magic ceases to work. That is how the device works. You can't cast or practice magic with the device in play. I doesn't matter how strong the magic is or what kind of magic it is. Magic won't work near this device.
I'm telling you, using this 'Amber Amulet' won't work on a Spider Witch or a Mammoth Sorceress.
It will if they use magic. That's how the device itself works. No amount of saying no will change that....I mean it litterly says "nulls all magic".....I don't get how this isn't clear...
I request that you lower the power level, so that it is effective against smaller boats rather than larger ones.
What does she use to power her explosions?
I’d rather not, and the damage comes with drawbacks. She can only create an explosion once a day, and is severely weakened after doing so, to the point she is unable to move for a couple minute afterwards.
The thing is, it doesn't make sense for it to be able to null one manipulation of Chi, but not the rest. No, that hasn't been through the FAC.
We just rejected plasma weapon for the immediate future.
The Phoenix were lifted into the sky at the same second as Chi was created. If they did manage to make this, how did it end up where it is? Good.
It only nulls magical manipulation of Chi. It's what the device is tailored to do. The technical aspect of Chi is noticeably different from Magic because it uses Chi as a power source and not to manipulate reality. The device is capable of telling the difference between the two.
Small temple slipped off their landmass and fell to the ground burying itself deep with the amulet inside. I'm going to go inside it when this Amulet passes the FAC.
Thanks for spending to time to read this. You are litterly the only FAC member to comment.
How exactly can it tell the difference between inserting an orb into a blaster and firing a laser, and focusing on an orb held in your hand and firing a laser?
I’d rather not, and the damage comes with drawbacks. She can only create an explosion once a day, and is severely weakened after doing so, to the point she is unable to move for a couple minute afterwards.
Magic.
I see.
What does she use to power her magic?
The same power source as the other already approved types of magic. Basically manipulating ambient Chi
Could you direct me to the post containing this missile? I clearly missed it. Thanks.
In Chima canon, Chi orbs are manipulated by blaster to create bolt. The magic is essentially the same thing, with a different thing doing the manipulating.
That otherworldly entity will require FAC approval. It's possible to survive without magic armour; the rest of the RP gets along.
Page 29 in the West Sea, and the missile was launched by none other than this RP's Rep.
Citation needed. Chi is only used to power technology in canon. Nowhere is it mentioned that it provides the ammo, too.
I don't need FAC approval for something that isn't in this RP.
You're gonna have to give me some better reasons to not let me have something that I've always had.
Thank you.
In canon, an orb of Chi is inserted into a weapon, and that weapon fires a laser. Given the similarities of the lasers to the Chi, I would consider it obvious that the orb is being focused into the laser by the components of the weapon.
If it's not in the RP, how is it giving items to characters in the RP?
I would say it was made by the Pheonix and left behind when they ascended. Ok, well then let's say it's made of a very very strong material. Like Steel. Yea, I can live with that. 
No, that hasn't been through the FAC. 
