*My troops having been ready for quite a while fire as soon as you enter range*
IC: *Few troops are smashed, and the majority make it back safely.*
OOC: The problem with that is my cavalry has a farther range due to momentum. They're galloping towards your lines and are firing before they enter within range of your archers. Given that they are travelling at a high speed already, the arrows will travel faster than if they had been shot from a stationary position. By the time your archers fire, most of my cavalry will have slowed down and turned back. And since none of your infantry has shields, they would have taken much higher losses.
While this happened a while ago, I would like to mention something about this. First off, as pointed out, cavalry won't have as good of bows as foot soldiers, at least on average. In addition, the fact that they're charging won't help. It would act like this:
- - - - - A C -
A is the place the arrow is fired, C is the cavalry when the arrow hits the target. The movement won't affect the range, it will simply get you in range faster.
Tul Generas of the Orcs, Darthraxx of the dragon Knights. I RP, and have lots of fun.
IC: *Few troops are smashed, and the majority make it back safely.*
OOC: The problem with that is my cavalry has a farther range due to momentum. They're galloping towards your lines and are firing before they enter within range of your archers. Given that they are travelling at a high speed already, the arrows will travel faster than if they had been shot from a stationary position. By the time your archers fire, most of my cavalry will have slowed down and turned back. And since none of your infantry has shields, they would have taken much higher losses.
While this happened a while ago, I would like to mention something about this. First off, as pointed out, cavalry won't have as good of bows as foot soldiers, at least on average. In addition, the fact that they're charging won't help. It would act like this:
- - - - - A C -
A is the place the arrow is fired, C is the cavalry when the arrow hits the target. The movement won't affect the range, it will simply get you in range faster.
Yes, it would get them in range faster. But the physics also have a play in this. Say you threw a ball at 80 mph out of a car moving the same speed. You would add that speed to the speed of the car, so it would be moving faster. If you just dropped the ball, it would still be travelling at 80 mph. So the range would be greater. And immediately after firing they turned around, as I specified. So I would both have added range and by turning around most of my cavalry would be out of range. Now, I haven't taken my high school physics yet, but I'm pretty sure this would occur. KitKat, I'm correct, no?
While this happened a while ago, I would like to mention something about this. First off, as pointed out, cavalry won't have as good of bows as foot soldiers, at least on average. In addition, the fact that they're charging won't help. It would act like this:
- - - - - A C -
A is the place the arrow is fired, C is the cavalry when the arrow hits the target. The movement won't affect the range, it will simply get you in range faster.
Yes, it would get them in range faster. But the physics also have a play in this. Say you threw a ball at 80 mph out of a car moving the same speed. You would add that speed to the speed of the car, so it would be moving faster. If you just dropped the ball, it would still be travelling at 80 mph. So the range would be greater. And immediately after firing they turned around, as I specified. So I would both have added range and by turning around most of my cavalry would be out of range. Now, I haven't taken my high school physics yet, but I'm pretty sure this would occur. KitKat , I'm correct, no?
As far as I'm aware, that's correct. If you're firing ahead of you, then your movement will add to the energy of the arrow, giving it a greater range and more power. If you're firing behind you, then your movement will subtract from the energy of the arrow, reducing its range and power. With infantry this really isn't a significant factor because of their relatively low speed (and because of how hard it is to fire a bow while running), but with cavalry their movement will affect their range a little bit. Unless, of course, you've got two groups of cavalry moving in the same direction at the same speed, in which case the effect can be ignored (because the other group moving counters the effect of the first one). Now, by my calculations, a galloping horse could probably increase a bow's range by about fifty meters. Whether that's enough for a shortbow to outrange a longbow (or whatever each of you have), I can't say.
Yes, it would get them in range faster. But the physics also have a play in this. Say you threw a ball at 80 mph out of a car moving the same speed. You would add that speed to the speed of the car, so it would be moving faster. If you just dropped the ball, it would still be travelling at 80 mph. So the range would be greater. And immediately after firing they turned around, as I specified. So I would both have added range and by turning around most of my cavalry would be out of range. Now, I haven't taken my high school physics yet, but I'm pretty sure this would occur. KitKat , I'm correct, no?
As far as I'm aware, that's correct. If you're firing ahead of you, then your movement will add to the energy of the arrow, giving it a greater range and more power. If you're firing behind you, then your movement will subtract from the energy of the arrow, reducing its range and power. With infantry this really isn't a significant factor because of their relatively low speed (and because of how hard it is to fire a bow while running), but with cavalry their movement will affect their range a little bit. Unless, of course, you've got two groups of cavalry moving in the same direction at the same speed, in which case the effect can be ignored (because the other group moving counters the effect of the first one). Now, by my calculations, a galloping horse could probably increase a bow's range by about fifty meters. Whether that's enough for a shortbow to outrange a longbow (or whatever each of you have), I can't say.
To my knowledge his archers have regular orc bows, whereas my cavalry has better elven bows. Granted, mine are probably a bit smaller, but they probably have equal, or possibly better, range given their superior design.
*All trebuchets pound the walls of the fortress, some landing within and smashing enemy troops.*
*Not many though* *The troops secretly exit through the back*
*Naturally *
OOC: There's an exit in the back? Well then.
*Eventually, seeing as it's hard to move 4k MWE with little noise, the Lorien cavalry notices and rides within bowshot, fires a volley, and then falls back, while the trebuchets prepare to change targets.*
*Not many though* *The troops secretly exit through the back*
*Naturally *
OOC: There's an exit in the back? Well then.
*Eventually, seeing as it's hard to move 4k MWE with little noise, the Lorien cavalry notices and rides within bowshot, fires a volley, and then falls back, while the trebuchets prepare to change targets.*
OOC: Yep, it's called busting through your own wall. *They find that almost all have exited and have found some cover* *They fire at the calvary*
*Eventually, seeing as it's hard to move 4k MWE with little noise, the Lorien cavalry notices and rides within bowshot, fires a volley, and then falls back, while the trebuchets prepare to change targets.*
OOC: Yep, it's called busting through your own wall. *They find that almost all have exited and have found some cover* *They fire at the calvary*
OOC: I'm going to have to null that. What resources do you have to bust this hole in the wall? I saw no mention of battering rams.
OOC: I'm going to have to null that. What resources do you have to bust this hole in the wall? I saw no mention of battering rams.
OOC: It's a weak spot, the walls were unfinished so it's easier to bust through.
OOC: That seems very convenient, doesn't it? You gave me the impression that the walls were completely finished, but all other structures of the fortress were not. Also, collapsing an entire wall so that 4,000 troops can pass through isn't exactly discreet.
