OK, just want to make sure I'm correct before posting Bree. We're not going to have a Barrow-Downs region? It doesn't matter to me one way or the other, I just want to make sure the map is correct.
The Downs are part of Cardolan
K, good, I didn't mention them
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BUT...BUT we do not have Characters from the LoTR IN the rp so technically Sauron and the Nazgul don't exist, so the orcs would only be loyal to their chieftains. So Moria and Dol Guldor wouldn't be under the rule of Mordor.
EDIT: Neither would Isenguard. Just for clarification.
We don't have canon characters. My RPC is therefore Sauron with another name. He's basically the same, but he's not Sauron.
BUT...BUT we do not have Characters from the LoTR IN the rp so technically Sauron and the Nazgul don't exist, so the orcs would only be loyal to their chieftains. So Moria and Dol Guldor wouldn't be under the rule of Mordor.
EDIT: Neither would Isenguard. Just for clarification.
We don't have canon characters. My RPC is therefore Sauron with another name. He's basically the same, but he's not Sauron.
I'm pretty sure we banned Maia from the RP way before I joined.
We don't have canon characters. My RPC is therefore Sauron with another name. He's basically the same, but he's not Sauron.
I'm pretty sure we banned Maia from the RP way before I joined.
If you like, we can just have a bunch of orcs running around getting smashed. Besides, I can't take physical form. The most I'll be able to do with him is make cool solo RPs in which I terrify minions through manipulation of black mist.
I'm pretty sure we banned Maia from the RP way before I joined.
If you like, we can just have a bunch of orcs running around getting smashed. Besides, I can't take physical form. The most I'll be able to do with him is make cool solo RPs in which I terrify minions through manipulation of black mist.
In that case, I think we should allow elven magic.
OK, after watching some YouTube videos, rewatching the movies, and spending about an hour putting this together in my mind, I think I am ready to talk about this subject, hopefully for the last time. (sorry for the ginormous post this is and the later ones that will happen in advance Mods.)
About the Armor of Trolls:
OK, so the First point is Troll Skin. All of this will either be IRL information, or from the movies, as the book does not state anything about this subject. Now, let's look at the two big parts of the Trolls in the movies, Cave Trolls and Mordor Trolls. So, Cave Trolls, Against Axes, Swords and Arrows. Axes worked just fine for their size, and swords made decent sized cuts as well. However, Arrows and the Javelin both had a bit of a problem. The Arrows were barely even noticed, except for the ones shot from the head, and the one shot into the one place without skin, the mouth. The Head was not effective, it merely hurt. While this did hurt, it really just made the troll mad. Javelins were similar, although it wasn't really meant for throwing, the one that Aragorn threw. He did it, but it was too long for a proper spear, and it failed to peirce much further than the arrows. It did something similar to the arrows at the top of the head, and that it it. For the Mordorian trolls, we see them taking dozens of arrows in the neck, armits and essentially anywhere where their armor isn't their (this will come into play later) and still surviving. We did see one troll fall by arrows, but it was one out of a dozen or so. Now, lets go inside. Mordor Trolls DID fall by the javelins and spears used by the gondorians, implying that they are weaker than the Cave Troll. So, my first point is that their is Canon evidence that troll skin is immune to being smashed by arrows.
Second Point, is Armor. this gets more into IRL information, which came from the YouTube Videos. First off, plate armor (the majority of a Heavily Armored Trolls armor) is, IRL, almost impossible to get almost anything through. A Troll would have a much larger plate, and so would be immune. Now, their is still the Neck, and the Armpits and so forth. However, IRL, chain mail and leather/cloth was protecting these locations. And considering how the Leather/Cloth layer could often stop a sharp sword blade, it is essentially even easier to say that. Oh and this point is not mute because of Canon showing trolls without proper armor, because that Movies give HUMANS improper armor, so what do you think they'll do to a non-human character with armor?
Now, I understand that their is a need for Weaknesses of trolls. Which why I understand that Lances, Javelins and Siege Weapons all need to be able to smash a troll. However, I used the examples of Javelins failing to hopefully, FINALLY get people to admit that arrows would not destroy my Heavily Armored Trolls. And that thrown Javelins are not the best weapon against them, because they are projectiles and as such will not have a force pushing it past the skin.
Thank you for your time, I've been annoyed at this ever since. . . Anorien was about the first time I used the Trolls actually. So Anorien. Had them all the time, but Anorien was the only time they caused problems or were even used mostly.
I agree. In the FOTR, Leggolas must have hit the cave troll (which was unarmoured) with over a dozen arrows (and he's Legolas; he's one of the best archer in ME) and it didn't smash it. Arrows can smash a troll, but it's hard. I mean, if an entire detatchment of elves fire several volleys at it, it's likely to go down. But a handful of humans would probably be smashed, because they have inferior weapons, armour and reflexes.
It's called suspense And the element of surprise, plus an enclosed space, and confusion But yes, they do appear to be difficult to solo
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If you like, we can just have a bunch of orcs running around getting smashed. Besides, I can't take physical form. The most I'll be able to do with him is make cool solo RPs in which I terrify minions through manipulation of black mist.
In that case, I think we should allow elven magic.
Well, I doubt you'll agree to these units, but here is the chance:
Shields of Isengaurd: Worth 2 Roman-like Shield, Crossbow
Guard of Isen: Worth 2 Weapons: Sword, Spear, Roman-like Shield Typical Tower Guard Unit
Following of Urugz: Worth 5 Recurve Bow, “Uraxe” (a Trident with the outer spikes similar to axes), and buckler.
Isenguard Higher Ballistae: Worth 20 A larger, more accurate ballistae, the Isenguard Ballistae can outshoot a Trebuchet, at the cost of its additional accuracy. Because of this distance, The Isenguard Ballistae is Highly efficient.
I checked your units out, and these are the ones I want. Nothing SUPER "fanon", with the most one being the Following of Urugz.
Their worths are too high for my liking. I'm also confused as to how a soldier uses a 'Gular' shield AND a crossbow.
1st off, the costs can change, except for the Isenguard Higher Ballistae. 2nd off, you don't have to use them, I just want them for my own armies. as for the shield bit, essentially they prop it up, possibly on their shoulder, load and fire their arrows, it simply is used to protect them from enemy fire while they load.
Tul Generas of the Orcs, Darthraxx of the dragon Knights. I RP, and have lots of fun.
If you like, we can just have a bunch of orcs running around getting smashed. Besides, I can't take physical form. The most I'll be able to do with him is make cool solo RPs in which I terrify minions through manipulation of black mist.
In that case, I think we should allow elven magic.
Elves harassing their minions? I don't really see that happening.
We're not going to have a Barrow-Downs region? It doesn't matter to me one way or the other, I just want to make sure the map is correct. 
