Adding onto the Bible is a condemned sin, actually. Read the end of Revelation.
I think that was a little more about actually adding but its the same thing so yes, thanks for your help.
That verse applies ONLY to Revelation itself. Remember that The Bible is not a single book -- it is a collection of DIFFERENT books each written by different people over the years.
Well, of course not. We definitely don't have the right to add on to The Bible -- but is a debate on musical instruments really adding on to The Bible? The book doesn't even come close to touching that subject, let alone making it clear.
the Jews don't by the way. Plus, if God wanted us to he would have told us.
Me personally I think bread and grape juice was explicitly intended, and that's the example we should follow. In that way, we are literally living out that moment in The Bible.
If you know anything about the culture, there is no such thing as Grape Juice.
Well I didn't want to mention its fermented equivelant
It's sort of a joke but the message still stands. The only requirement for a worship song is that its message is pure. Besides -- as long as it gets people to lift their hands in the air and seemingly go into a trance, right?
Yah, I reject that trance thing.
Me personally, I can't stand music in Church. I just want to hear the sermon and that's it however -- as long as the music makes people have a spiritual connection to the Lord -- who am I to say that their enjoyment of the music is wrong?
If that's your opinion, it's fine, I suppose. But you realize that's saying C.S. Lewis was wrong to write Narnia, right? And I'm pretty sure it's common knowledge that he was a devout Christian and that his writings were very symbolic. And his other writings were straight up about being a Christian.
Narnia is a story of Christ for children, the difference is its teaching good things not witchcraft.
I implore you to actually read Harry Potter and determine for yourself whether or not it has anything to do with what is practiced in the real world. I mean, the brand of magic studied at Hogwarts includes a class that focuses on defense AGAINST the dark arts, denoting that any magic used to harm others is implicitly morally wrong.
Superstition is our own worst enemy -- we shouldn't judge anything until we know enough about it.
As Legobuilder pointed out, at the end of revelation it ells us something addressing this.
I'm not adding anything. I'm not adding new revelation, or changing the words, which is what the verse is talking about.
I'm doing exactly what the Bible tells us to, as I have clearly set out. But since you aren't listening, and you're not actually responding to my points, good day, sir. This discussion is over.
Well, of course not. We definitely don't have the right to add on to The Bible -- but is a debate on musical instruments really adding on to The Bible? The book doesn't even come close to touching that subject, let alone making it clear.
Actually, a few pages back, Keplers gave an example of a verse from Colossians that said to worship God with instruments.
He won, sorry hillary, and its more likely that there are Aliens than Russia meddled.
Well, of course not. We definitely don't have the right to add on to The Bible -- but is a debate on musical instruments really adding on to The Bible? The book doesn't even come close to touching that subject, let alone making it clear.
Actually, a few pages back, Keplers gave an example of a verse from Colossians that said to worship God with instruments.
No it said Psalms, and of course they all had instruments, right?
He's getting free vacations, pretty much. Vacations payed for by our taxes
By "vacations," are you talking about visiting other countries? Because basically every president since Teddy Roosevelt has done that, it's an important part of politics and foreign relations. If he was using our tax money to visit Miami and do nothing for a week, that would be wrong.
Narnia is a story of Christ for children, the difference is its teaching good things not witchcraft.
Harry Potter does not "teach witchcraft" either. If I point a stick at someone and say Avada Kedavra they're not going to drop dead. HP spells have roots in Latin, English, or sometimes African languages. No real sorcery.
Whatever you want, I don't like Her but if you do that's your business.
Fine, i'll use the analogy, what if your parents gave you a cheese pizza and said don't add anything, but you didn't care and put pepperoni because you thought it was better, that's wrong because you disobeyed your parents, know Say God is your Parent, in a sense he is. if he gave you something and told you not to add to it, if you did you disobeyed God.
God never said not to add instruments to worship. Keplers found a verse in Colossians that actually did say to use instruments.
Yah and in Revelation John gives a warning to any who add to the bible.
As Legobuilder pointed out, at the end of revelation it ells us something addressing this.
The ending of Revelation is intended to be a warning against adding or taking away from the words of REVELATION specifically -- not any of the other books in The Bible, just Revelation.
However, if we follow that thread of logic you presented, Tweed, we could also say YOU are guilty of adding on to The Bible by saying that we are disallowed from playing musical instruments in worship. therefore, you are just as guilty of 'adding on' to The Bible as the very people who do play musical instruments.
I defer you back to Bobbywan's argument. To expect The Bible to specifically tell you everything you CAN do not just what you can't do is absolute folly. The whole point of the Christian Religion is that it isn't works based -- that we as followers of Christ have been liberated from the burdens most other religions present, because we've already been made salvageable. Following any sort of strict orthodoxy, therefore, would only serve to discredit our religion, and make us look no better than Buddhist monks.
If God wanted us to why didn't he tell us? let are stupid Logic figure it out? Play cue games in verses? You're the one who won't listen, you're defining what you think is best. Maybe Ib think we can do anything we want as long as we worship.
I think that was a little more about actually adding but its the same thing so yes, thanks for your help.
That verse applies ONLY to Revelation itself. Remember that The Bible is not a single book -- it is a collection of DIFFERENT books each written by different people over the years.
But its the last book so I think it defines the whole bible, besides does that mean we could add to the rest?
Me personally, I can't stand music in Church. I just want to hear the sermon and that's it however -- as long as the music makes people have a spiritual connection to the Lord -- who am I to say that their enjoyment of the music is wrong?
There is nothing wrong with Singing, its done in Acts I think and the early church, funny thing is no Instruments, but if Paul had more money he surely would get some and get huge buildings to, right?
