USA almost obviously did not consider the size of the side effects. While it was necessary to claim that many lives, I don't believe such measures were needed. Long after the war, still now, People are physically suffering from the effects of the bomb
Yes, they didn't know about radiation sickness yet.
I really doubt that. Did everyone think "oh we're pulsing high-energy photons everywhere. everyone will be fiiine."
Old sci-fi is the best sci-fi! v this is not old sci-fi Maxim 3: An ordnance technician at a dead run outranks everybody. Maxim 24: Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a big gun.
"“Even by the twenty-second century, no way had yet been discovered of keeping elderly and conservative scientists from occupying crucial administrative positions. Indeed, it was doubted if the problem ever would be solved.” ^That, on the other hand, is old sci-fi.
In retrospect it quelled some of the spread of communism in Asia, which may or may not have ended more lives over a period of time.
The Japanese weren't communists, and it certainly didn't save any innocent civilians lives those people had nothing to do with the war they were just trying to live their lives.
Not defending the bomb, but some analysts have suggested that the bombs were the main thing standing in the way of nuclear war.
Old sci-fi is the best sci-fi! v this is not old sci-fi Maxim 3: An ordnance technician at a dead run outranks everybody. Maxim 24: Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a big gun.
"“Even by the twenty-second century, no way had yet been discovered of keeping elderly and conservative scientists from occupying crucial administrative positions. Indeed, it was doubted if the problem ever would be solved.” ^That, on the other hand, is old sci-fi.
Out of curiosity, why do you then have the Iron Cross as your avatar and in your signature?
'tis the Balkenkreuz (though I do have an Iron Cross in my signature as well). I'm a fan of Germany and the German military during the World Wars. While for obvious reasons I abhor many of their actions, there were just as many humane and heroic Germans as Allied soldiers during the war.
And the irony is that my favorite country during the war was Poland.
Poland!
RAF Squadron No. 303 FTW!
Old sci-fi is the best sci-fi! v this is not old sci-fi Maxim 3: An ordnance technician at a dead run outranks everybody. Maxim 24: Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a big gun.
"“Even by the twenty-second century, no way had yet been discovered of keeping elderly and conservative scientists from occupying crucial administrative positions. Indeed, it was doubted if the problem ever would be solved.” ^That, on the other hand, is old sci-fi.
To some degree I agree with your rationale, but TBH they could have just dropped one somewhere uninhabited
Also I saw somewhere that Japan was readying to surrender and the Allies knew that. Is that actually correct?
Totally correct, Japan believed their Emperor was a god and if he was executed they would not stand for it. They tried to surrender but the US was insistent on unconditional . If they signed that their Emperor might be executed. Truman dropped the bomb partly to scare the soviets and after this Japan surrendered unconditionally to the US but after all of this they let Japan keep their emperor. The bomb is like the death star, do you like the death star?
The bomb was the death star. The only difference being that the commander of it wasn't a cold-blooded sociopath
Old sci-fi is the best sci-fi! v this is not old sci-fi Maxim 3: An ordnance technician at a dead run outranks everybody. Maxim 24: Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a big gun.
"“Even by the twenty-second century, no way had yet been discovered of keeping elderly and conservative scientists from occupying crucial administrative positions. Indeed, it was doubted if the problem ever would be solved.” ^That, on the other hand, is old sci-fi.
In retrospect it quelled some of the spread of communism in Asia, which may or may not have ended more lives over a period of time.
The Japanese weren't communists, and it certainly didn't save any innocent civilians lives those people had nothing to do with the war they were just trying to live their lives.
I was referring to the advancement of the Soviet Union in mainly Manchuria. If push came to shove, they could have even taken parts of Japan and put them under communist rule. This would have been even more detrimental to the people compared to the bombs, judging from how communists have murdered citizens across the world.
By the grace my God has invested into me, I shall lead and follow onto glory.
'tis the Balkenkreuz (though I do have an Iron Cross in my signature as well). I'm a fan of Germany and the German military during the World Wars. While for obvious reasons I abhor many of their actions, there were just as many humane and heroic Germans as Allied soldiers during the war.
And the irony is that my favorite country during the war was Poland.
Poland!
RAF Squadron No. 303 FTW!
Are you talking about the squadron of polish fighters.
Totally correct, Japan believed their Emperor was a god and if he was executed they would not stand for it. They tried to surrender but the US was insistent on unconditional . If they signed that their Emperor might be executed. Truman dropped the bomb partly to scare the soviets and after this Japan surrendered unconditionally to the US but after all of this they let Japan keep their emperor. The bomb is like the death star, do you like the death star?
The bomb was the death star. The only difference being that the commander of it wasn't a cold-blooded sociopath
I say he was, Truman was overjoyed to here about the explosion like Krennic saying the death star shot hitting a planet was beautiful.
Yes, they didn't know about radiation sickness yet.
I really doubt that. Did everyone think "oh we're pulsing high-energy photons everywhere. everyone will be fiiine."
I don't think they understood what would happen. When they first tested the bomb they had no idea how devastating the explosion would be. They didn't quite understand the amount of radiation that would be produced either.
The Japanese weren't communists, and it certainly didn't save any innocent civilians lives those people had nothing to do with the war they were just trying to live their lives.
Not defending the bomb, but some analysts have suggested that the bombs were the main thing standing in the way of nuclear war.
Well, there were tons of instances where the Soviets or Americans picked up a flock of birds on their radars and thinking they were bombs almost launched their weapons.
The Japanese weren't communists, and it certainly didn't save any innocent civilians lives those people had nothing to do with the war they were just trying to live their lives.
I was referring to the advancement of the Soviet Union in mainly Manchuria. If push came to shove, they could have even taken parts of Japan and put them under communist rule. This would have been even more detrimental to the people compared to the bombs, judging from how communists have murdered citizens across the world.
True, but that's still not an exuse to drop the bomb.
I think we may need an ethics chatroom on that front.
Turman probably didn't know Japan would surrender that easily. They're famed for literally fighting too the last man,so why would this be any different? Plus,it was probably to show off to the Soviets as well.
Yes, but Truman would have known they tried to surrender and he dropped the bomb on them anyway.
Assuming he did know that, he still needed a way of telling communism "don't mess with us". Telling them that they had a nuke wouldn't work, but the Japanese saying they did would have been a darn good warning.
I'm not saying I agree with it, just saying why he might have done it.
